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"A Scathing Indictment of Old Europe" (karma: 36)  en>fr fr>en
By DANDEERSLUG8 Comments: 2498, member since Sun Apr 06, 2003
On Fri Jun 27, 2003 03:18 PM
Europeans talk a great deal, do very little, and blame the United States for home-grown ills.<br /> <br /> We thought you were adults, but, from across the Atlantic, you look like spoiled children. And your recent tantrums have convinced Big Daddy America to deposit you on the steps of the strategic orphanage.<br /> <br /> And after the events of September 11th, 2001, we will not wait to be attacked, but will strike pre-emptively wherever we believe it to be necessary-and we shall do so without ever again asking Europe's permission. So we are, indeed, warmongers by European standards.<br /> <br /> The tradition of permitting France a greater voice in trans-Atlantic decision-making than its place, power or contributions merited is over, as dead as Jean-Paul Sartre or his idol, Josef Stalin. The Gallic cock crowed so loudly it fell off the fence and broke its neck.<br /> A MUST READ!!

"A Scathing Indictment of Old Europe"

by Parker Ames
Friday, June 27, 2003
www.chronwatch.com . . .

Ralph Peters, writing for the German newspaper Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung, bids adieu to America’s former allies France and Germany, in a scathing indictment of ''Old Europe.'' The article came out on May 15, and reportedly got more responses than any previous article in the newspaper’s history.

The societies of ''Old Europe'' remind Americans of the Arab Street. Preferring comforting delusions to challenging realities, Europeans talk a great deal, do very little, and blame the United States for home-grown ills.

The recent chants in the boulevards of Berlin were almost indistinguishable from those heard-until recently--in downtown Baghdad. Europe's culture of complaint, its enthusiasm for accusing America of every wickedness while assigning every virtue to itself, and its stunning lack of self-examination leave Americans bewildered.

We thought you were adults, but, from across the Atlantic, you look like spoiled children. And your recent tantrums have convinced Big Daddy America to deposit you on the steps of the strategic orphanage.

The damage done by the recent confrontation between The United States and those nations whose vocabularies collapsed to the single words ''Nein!'' or ''Non!'' will be repaired-on the surface. We shall continue to cooperate on matters of mutual interest. But, on a deeper level, the exuberantly dishonest attacks on America heard from France and Germany (Belgium simply doesn't count), along with the shameless grandstanding of Mr. Schroeder and Mr. Chirac, appear to even the most pragmatic Americans as grounds for divorce from our long marriage of convenience.

The divorce is long overdue. Ignoring ''Old Europe'' on questions of grand strategy will liberate the United States, freeing us at last from the failed European model of diplomacy that has given the world so many hideous wars, dysfunctional borders and undisturbed dictators. The recent mischief wrought in Paris and Berlin has enabled Washington to escape a long thrall of enchantment, a slumber of sorts during which America allowed Europe's ghost to haunt its decisions.

Now you have awakened us, and we see that Europe's influence was nothing but a legacy of nightmares. We shall no longer subscribe to your bloodsoaked, corrupt rules for the international system, but will forge our own. You will not like many of our new rules. But to paraphrase Frederick the Great's remark about Maria Theresia, you will cry, but take your share of any available spoils.

As a result of a series of remarkable strategic miscalculations, France and Germany have lost their international footing-not only with the USA, but with the world. You had your moment in the anti-American sun. High noon revealed you as powerless and inept.

For Germany, this divorce will offer some advantages. American combat forces soon will begin to leave German soil permanently, followed in good time by our logistics facilities, which are simply more difficult to shift. This will be to Germany's benefit practically and psychologically--and very much to the benefit of America's armed forces, which have become nothing but a cash cow for greedy organizations ranging from your railways to your labor unions.

NATO will survive, of course. Along with the European Union, it's an indispensable employment agency for Europe's excess bureaucrats. But other bilateral and multilateral military arrangements will take precedence in Washington's strategic calculations.

On the negative side, Germany will lose almost all of its diplomatic influence beyond continental Europe-and Berlin never had much, at least since 1945. The world will take your Euros, but will not take you seriously.

You have asserted your independence from America. Now you have it.

Good luck.

We won our war, easily, despite your protests and without your help. And do not flatter yourself with rhetoric about refusing to be America's vassals. No one in the United States questioned Germany's right to decide for itself whether or not to support our efforts to depose Saddam Hussein. Germany had every right to decline to participate. But it was the way you did it that infuriated us.

Bundeskanzler Schroeder astonished us. We long had recognized him as a political charlatan, but the extent of his demagogy and his amateurish inability to foresee the consequences of his ranting still came as a surprise to us. We see Mr. Schroeder as a man utterly without convictions-a man without qualities--a political animal so debased that he resembles no one so much as he does European caricatures of small-time American politicians. His opportunistic anti-Americanism seemed all for effect, without substance or genuine belief.

Yet, in other respects, Schroeder proved quintessentially European: He criticized, but failed to offer meaningful solutions of his own. He chose slogans over ideas, convenience over ethics, and portrayed small-minded selfishness as political heroism. What qualities might better describe 21st century Europe?

Germany has come a long way downhill from Adenauer and Schmidt to Gerhard Schroeder. Most difficult of all for us to stomach were remarks from members of the German government comparing President Bush to Hitler. Now, does anyone reading this newspaper believe that's an honest comparison? And was it fitting coming from a German official? One thinks not. Americans heard the echo of Joseph Goebbels.

Then there were all the demonstrators waving signs equating the United States to the Nazi regime, as tasteless a display as Germany has managed since the last crematorium went cold. Once our tempers cooled, we realized that all these Nazi comparisons weren't really about us. It was all about you, your guilt and your evasions.

Perhaps the most revealing incident of the war came during a television interview with a young protester in Berlin after Baghdad had fallen. The reporter asked him what he thought of the images of Iraqis cheering U.S. Marines and toppling Saddam's statue. The young German said the scenes ''annoyed'' him. Doubtless. Reality is annoying, indeed.

Oh, we know how you see us. You never cease telling us. We are uncultured, because we cannot recall the date of the first performance of Das Rheingold. We are heartless, since our society favors opportunity over security. We are naïve, since we do not share your prejudices. We are warmongers, because we still believe some things are worth defending. And now we are Nazis, because we moved to depose a dictator who had slaughtered his own people as well as his neighbors, while harboring terrorists and pursuing weapons of mass destruction.

Of course, you continue to buy our cultural products. Your brightest young people come to our shores to work. We Americans have moved beyond the racism that blights Germany and France (we look forward to meeting a German Colin Powell of Turkish ancestry in Berlin or an ethnic-Senegalese Condoleeza Rice in Paris), so we certainly do not share your prejudices.

And after the events of September 11th, 2001, we will not wait to be attacked, but will strike pre-emptively wherever we believe it to be necessary-and we shall do so without ever again asking Europe's permission. So we are, indeed, warmongers by European standards.

Now, with Germany's Jews long since slaughtered or driven out (to America's great benefit, thank you), you attack Israel at every opportunity, hanging on every Palestinian claim, no matter how absurd, and inventing Israeli atrocities. Americans see Israelis as fighting for their existence against those who want to exterminate them. You view Israelis as a reproach to your past deeds, and you lash out at them. Clausewitz is no longer a guide to your national behavior. Today, we need to consult Sigmund Freud. A Jew, of course.

The Israelis, too, have been called Nazis by your elected politicians-indeed, ''Nazi'' seems to be your favorite insult. At times it sounds to us as though everyone who isn't a German is now a Nazi. Unless, of course, we are talking of Arabs who murder Jews, in which case a good German speaks of freedom fighters.

Here in America, Holocaust survivors live among us, as do those aging G.I.s who opened the gates to Dachau. They have been our fathers, our teachers and our neighbors. Is it any wonder that we find your rhetoric repulsive? Hitler, at least, was honest about his bigotry.

And now we must endure the ludicrous schizophrenia of your present society, in which you alternate between insisting that German guilt must have an end and indulging in revisionist history that equates the allied bombing campaign against your cities or the sinking of ships ferrying submarine crews with Nazi evils. Your attempts to excuse the inexcusable merely remind us that Germany deserved every bomb dropped upon its soil. Bush the equivalent of Hitler? Show us the American death camps, please.

Auf wiedersehen, Lili Marleen. It was great while it lasted.

And Marianne? Since no one took Germany seriously to begin with, Berlin had less to lose in l'affaire Iraq than Paris. France gambled with Dostoevskian abandon in the strategic casino and ended up bankrupt in the morning light. President Chirac and his sorcerer's apprentice, Foreign Minister Dominique de Villepin, emerged as one of the most incompetent combinations in diplomatic history, two drunkards behind the steering wheel of policy. It astonishes us that the French actually believed that Paris could dictate terms to Washington. Sorry. Gaul does not give orders to Rome.

We understood that Chirac was playing to the Arab world as well as to his domestic electorate. But the succession of French refusals to negotiate seriously or even to consider compromises at the United Nations, climaxed by France's announcement, in advance, that it would veto any further resolutions introduced by the United States or Britain, seemed suicidal to us. And it was suicidal. The legacy of Charles de Gaulle perished in the Security Council. The tradition of permitting France a greater voice in trans-Atlantic decision-making than its place, power or contributions merited is over, as dead as Jean-Paul Sartre or his idol, Josef Stalin. The Gallic cock crowed so loudly it fell off the fence and broke its neck.

Washington will no longer entertain the views of Paris on vital international issues. Nor will we risk another French veto on a matter we view as critical to our national security. And we will feed the United Nations the crumbs of strategy.

Far from expanding its influence, France has forced its collapse. A quick round of applause in Algeria is hardly worth the loss of America's ear. Briefly the champion of all the anti-American forces in the world, from Libya to North Korea, France is left unable to resolve the civil strife in Ivory Coast. And Paris will not be given a significant role in rebuilding Iraq.

France long has seemed to Americans to be the apotheosis of European hypocrisy. While defending Saddam Hussein from ''American aggression,'' Mr. Chirac hosted Robert Mugabe in Paris in a pathetic attempt to expand French influence into Anglophone Africa. But I was in Zimbabwe when the visit occurred and the degree of fury the people of that country felt toward France for hosting Mugabe-whom they have nicknamed ''Robodan Mugabevich''-guaranteed that the French will never be welcome between the Zambezi and the Limpopo.

France seems to us an aging whore desperate to attract even the most diseased customers. But, above all, it is French naivete that leaves us shaking our heads. How could they so misjudge the situation? Aren't the French supposed to be terribly clever and devious? How could they be so clumsy, and on such a grand scale? The short answer is that, like Arabs, they believed their own fantasies. In addition to the forlorn illusion that France is still a great power, Mr. Chirac and Mr. de Villepin utterly misjudged George Bush. They had called him a cowboy for so long that they came to believe there was nothing to the man. And they were wrong.

I did not vote for President Bush. But, after 9/11/01, I was glad he was our president. Had Al Gore been in the White House, we would have done the European thing and formed a committee to ask how we had brought disaster upon ourselves. President Bush led a galvanized nation into a series of deliberate, carefully-considered actions that have broken the back of one terrorist organization after another while removing a brutal, backward theocracy from one country and a blood-encrusted dictatorship from another.

And America is not finished. We will no longer subscribe to the European system in which dictators may do as they wish with impunity within their own borders-your insistence on respect for national sovereignty simply means that Hitler would have been perfectly acceptable had he only killed German Jews. And we will not follow the traditions of kings and kaisers in which heads of state are exempt from personal punishment, no matter their crimes. We will go after the truly guilty, not the masses.

71 Replies to "A Scathing Indictment of Old Europe"

re: "A Scathing Indictment of Old Europe" en>fr fr>en
By Timbeaux Comments: 2417, member since Wed Apr 23, 2003
On Fri Jun 27, 2003 03:37 PM
We will no longer subscribe to the European system in which dictators may do as they wish with impunity within their own borders-your insistence on respect for national sovereignty simply means that Hitler would have been perfectly acceptable had he only killed German Jews. And we will not follow the traditions of kings and kaisers in which heads of state are exempt from personal punishment, no matter their crimes. We will go after the truly guilty, not the masses.


Amen!
Halleleuya!
All men are equal in the eyes of justice, badges of state will not exempt you from the long arm of the law!!!

K-K-K.... three strikes Dan, you're out! lol You're taking up too much of my K budget! I don't care how good the next article you post today is, no more soup for you!
re: "A Scathing Indictment of Old Europe" en>fr fr>en
By BlessedContinent Comments: 1348, member since Fri May 02, 2003
On Fri Jun 27, 2003 03:44 PM
Wow...Absofuckinglutely astounding. bigK+...and Fuck France.
re: "A Scathing Indictment of Old Europe" en>fr fr>en
By DABAL Comments: 10431, member since Tue May 06, 2003
On Fri Jun 27, 2003 03:50 PM
Good read, K+.

Stupid fucking Chiraq. He'll go down in history as the man who killed France.
Go slug Go! (karma: 1)  en>fr fr>en
By Georgio Comments: 245, member since Mon Mar 31, 2003
On Fri Jun 27, 2003 03:52 PM
en fuego senor.

question: If we folow the logic of events as they are unfolding, do you think the rift between us and them will lead to armed conflict? I think it just might. We pushed the japanese so hard that they had no choice but to attack us or go belly up. If we are not careful we could repeat history. Just a thought....
G
Hat Trick For Danno en>fr fr>en
By SevenSeventeen Comments: 11109, member since Tue Apr 22, 2003
On Fri Jun 27, 2003 03:56 PM
Dan - you get the Friday Hat Trick - another superb article. Peters rules!

"Germans comparing Bush to Hitler" - it about you, your guilt, your evasions.

On France "France seems to us an aging whore desperate to attract even the most diseased customers".

Absolute poetry, would that I could be so articulate.

Thanks for making my Friday, I will re-read these two articles time and again at the martini hour this evening.

FF
re: "A Scathing Indictment of Old Europe" en>fr fr>en
By FrenchSmellofAss Comments: 94, member since Tue May 06, 2003
On Fri Jun 27, 2003 03:57 PM
This is a great article. I wonder what the replies must have been like. Does anyone have a link?
re: "A Scathing Indictment of Old Europe" en>fr fr>en
By curtish Comments: 5152, member since Thu Apr 03, 2003
On Fri Jun 27, 2003 03:59 PM
Dead on! K+ I'd sure like to here what all the record setting "reader mail" that essay generated was about.
re: "A Scathing Indictment of Old Europe" en>fr fr>en
By sierra_fox Comments: 1670, member since Sat May 03, 2003
On Fri Jun 27, 2003 04:00 PM
Phenomenal, Dan.
Couldn't ask for a better way to end the week.
Have passed this article along to all my friends, and am certain they will pass it along farther and wider.

Yeah, you're sucking up my K-budget like the Klintons consume all the oxygen in a small room!!
:D :D :D

But it's well worth it in this case.

Catch you (yet again) on the recharge!!
re: "A Scathing Indictment of Old Europe" en>fr fr>en
By chiraqmember has saluted, click to view salute photos Comments: 5493, member since Tue Mar 25, 2003
On Fri Jun 27, 2003 04:07 PM
This is either the first or second best article I've ever read here, along side that one by the Francois chick about French politics.
re: "A Scathing Indictment of Old Europe" en>fr fr>en
By RedDwarfer Comments: 361, member since Wed Mar 19, 2003
On Fri Jun 27, 2003 04:17 PM
Edited by RedDwarfer (60157) on 2003-06-27 16:18:33
Georgio,

I wouldn't worry about that too much. It's not just the size of our military and quality of our troops, but the doctrine with which our military was designed around. It's called "Projection of Force". Our forces are more widely based and capable of effectively striking farther than any other nation's forces. This has 2 major benefits over any Old Europe country;

1. Being widely dispersed, it would be extremely difficult to neutralize any sizable portion of our forces with a surprise attack, while France and Germany are pretty much concentrated in areas no bigger than one of our states.

2. Because France and Germany's forces are concentrated in a few areas, it is easier to plan to counter any offensive by one of those countries from a greater choice of defensive positions. i.e. they are coming from one direction while we already have them surrounded.

One last thing to mention about a possible war with France and Germany, they cannot afford to re-arm their forces to a level capable of mounting any kind of effective offense against the United States. That and the combat experience of the US forces would make an attempt to militarily challenge the USA by either France or Germany a suicidal action.
AWESOME READ en>fr fr>en
By PUNISHER_X Comments: 256, member since Thu Apr 24, 2003
On Fri Jun 27, 2003 04:20 PM
Dan,

Kick-ass read. Man, this was one of the top 5 articles I've read on FF. I love it when Americans who know the truth come out w/ some powerful shit that scares all the mullahs & frogs on this site. Dan, hats off to you for this find. I'm off to Happy Hour and I'm definitely going to share this w/ my compadres & honies too.
re: "A Scathing Indictment of Old Europe" en>fr fr>en
By DABAL Comments: 10431, member since Tue May 06, 2003
On Fri Jun 27, 2003 04:48 PM
RD, they couldn't fuck with us if we gave them a 4 year head start. All they can do is threaten us with Nukes, but we know what will happen. If their missles actually work, they still couldn't oblitterate the USA. However, we could turn the whole of Europe into a cloud of dust. So that rules out the use of nukes for them, it's not MAD, it's just AD. Conventionally, they wouldn't stand a chance, we just outnumber their forces by a factor of ten, and that's without even calling up one reserve. Economically, they're no threat to us, never have been, never will be. They simply don't produce enough. They can't top us in anything except arrogance, which they appear to have in spades.
re: "A Scathing Indictment of Old Europe" (karma: 2)  en>fr fr>en
By AntiFrench Comments: 50249, member since Sat Aug 25, 2001
On Fri Jun 27, 2003 05:01 PM
Defintely one of the best articles I have read that covered so much about the duplicity/hypocrisy/backstabbing/whining/bitching (and best of all, REAL NAZISM) of the EURO-TRASH-SCUMBAGS! OUTSTANDING!

HUGE KARMA! +1!

If this article could stay at the top of the page forever, I would not mind one bit!! Great find! :D
re:AF (karma: 1)  en>fr fr>en
By DANDEERSLUG8 Comments: 2498, member since Sun Apr 06, 2003
On Fri Jun 27, 2003 05:10 PM
Thanks for the kind remarks.To me your the best on this site and I've learned alot from you.Keep fucking the frogs,as only you can do. K+
FUCKING AWESOME ARTICLE en>fr fr>en
By USCITIZEN Comments: 227, member since Thu Mar 06, 2003
On Fri Jun 27, 2003 08:14 PM
AMEN,AMEN,AMEN. WOW.
<B> DEATH TO THE FRENCH ECONOMY </B>
K+++
re: "A Scathing Indictment of Old Europe" en>fr fr>en
By Reed Comments: 10849, member since Sat May 24, 2003
On Fri Jun 27, 2003 08:16 PM
Excellent article! K+

My favorite line: "France seems to us an aging whore desperate to attract even the most diseased customers."

LMAO! Fuck France!
K+!!! en>fr fr>en
By Sebastian Comments: 9578, member since Wed Apr 23, 2003
On Fri Jun 27, 2003 09:57 PM
Amazing article is all I gotta say. No frog posts so that must mean that this is some Freddy Kreuger scary type shit for them to read. Man it sucks to be a frog right about now and see your own country turn into a science fiction movie future wasteland.

ps. I can't even say Fuck France this time 'cause the article is just too painful to the Euros anyway. The ramifications to the HISTORICAL FRENCH FUCKUP will be SEVERE and it gets worse for them day by day. Give it time France.... The WMDs in Iraq are nothing like the Islamofascists WMDs wearing turbans and slowly taking over your country. At least we can difuse the Iraqi WMDs when we get them, France on the otherhand will never recover.

Figure I would say this early as in a couple years you won't be around to understand the French language anyways :

Au revoire frogs, can't say it was nice knowing you.
re: "A Scathing Indictment of Old Europe" en>fr fr>en
By odioFrancia Comments: 23441, member since Wed Feb 26, 2003
On Fri Jun 27, 2003 10:24 PM
Dander:
Your own comments were so good and so much of what I've said before and thought before that you get the Karma even before I've read the article.

Great job! K+1
re: "A Scathing Indictment of Old Europe" en>fr fr>en
By kassaq Comments: 6647, member since Fri Feb 28, 2003
On Fri Jun 27, 2003 11:07 PM
There's really nothing else to add. K+++
Wow! en>fr fr>en
By LibertyBell Comments: 347, member since Sun Mar 16, 2003
On Sat Jun 28, 2003 12:51 AM
Breathtaking - the BAAAA DEST read I have seen on FuckFrance.com, and I have seen some amazing material. I am humbled; I could never have written something that good, probably not even close. K+1, deserves K+100. Makes me want to watch <i>Patton</i> all over again.
re: "A Scathing Indictment of Old Europe" (karma: 1)  en>fr fr>en
By check_6 Comments: 2122, member since Sun Jun 01, 2003
On Sat Jun 28, 2003 01:53 AM
Dan, you are karma Velcro. I tried to come up with an articulate redress of the article but all my brain would allow was "holy crap, good read".
GRRRR (karma: 1)  en>fr fr>en
By check_6 Comments: 2122, member since Sun Jun 01, 2003
On Sat Jun 28, 2003 01:57 AM
Georgio,

We pushed the japanese so hard that they had no choice but to attack us or go belly up. If we are not careful we could repeat history.


Were we behind the Japanese pushing as they rolled through China making Gingas Kahn look like Truman Capote? Were we beating their little yellow asses with riding crops all thee way through Indochina? Or Korea? Was FDR dog paddeling Akagi out to sea? The oil embargo was a direct result of their brutal conquest and occupation of eastern China and their threat to the Philippines and the South pacific islands, including Australia. We didn’t bring Pearl Harbor on our selves, no way.
In terms of pushing Old Europe into war, don’t worry, it aint going to happen. Not for boycotting Bordeaux.
re: "A Scathing Indictment of Old Europe" en>fr fr>en
By sierra_fox Comments: 1670, member since Sat May 03, 2003
On Sat Jun 28, 2003 07:28 AM
I keep my promises!!

Delivered K+ as per last night

Still reads as well or better in the AM, even on the 2d cuppa
re: "A Scathing Indictment of Old Europe" en>fr fr>en
By Monticellomember has saluted, click to view salute photos Comments: 5334, member since Thu May 15, 2003
On Sat Jun 28, 2003 09:42 AM
I read your post last night while I was working at the hospital.
I had no way of giving you karma, but I can make up for it now.
Wonderfully accurate read.
Thank You.
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