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en>fr fr>en By NahnCee Comments: 12102, member since Mon Oct 13, 2003On Sun Oct 31, 2004 10:32 AM
Locked by NahnCee (73634) on 2005-03-26 17:09:45 I'm tired of having ancient history pop up on my screen.
These are some of the comments made by Iraqis who signed an appeal to the UN to <b>stop France’s attempts</b> to hinder the democratic process in Iraq.<br />
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The petition was organized by a group of Iraqi civil society organization and was directed to the UN and addressed “To any person support democracy in Iraq”. The petition was put on line few days ago and till this date they have gathered around 380 signatures from Iraqis inside and outside Iraq but the number is increasing by dozens everyday. The majority were Iraqis living abroad and I guess this is because of the Internet access is more available outside Iraq.
<i>"France is the biggest enemy for Iraq."
Hamza Al Jawahiri.
"I know the huge amount of oil France had stolen from Iraq."
Mohammed Jawad Asher.
"France role is known through the modern history as supporter of dictatorships. France blocked the democratic path in Algeria and now Iraq. "
Al Kenany
"No, To New Barbaric Murders Supported by France, Yes, For Free Democratic IRAQ."
Radhi Al-Hashimy
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These are some of the comments made by Iraqis who signed an appeal to the UN to stop France’s attempts to hinder the democratic process in Iraq.
The petition was organized by a group of Iraqi civil society organization and was directed to the UN and addressed “To any person support democracy in Iraq”. The petition was put on line few days ago and till this date they have gathered around 380 signatures from Iraqis inside and outside Iraq but the number is increasing by dozens everyday. The majority were Iraqis living abroad and I guess this is because of the Internet access is more available outside Iraq.
Unfortunately many comments were written in Arabic and seemed to be encoded that even I couldn’t view them, but still there are many comments in English. I know that many people would probably say that such actions are ineffective, and they have a point. Still I see it as a wonderful development that Iraqis are starting to organize such group activities making use of the Internet as the fastest way to achieve contact with the largest possible number of Iraqis.
In addition to that, such appeals and the one organized by “Arab Liberals” send a message to the terrorists and those who support them and who claim to help Iraqi people that Iraqis do not support their actions and moreover condemn them. It’s helpful in exposing these people and also discouraging these terrorists whom many of them are being sent to Iraq and told that Iraqis need their help to be “liberated”.
It’s also helpful in showing Iraqis who believe in democracy and new Iraq to see that they are not a minority as the media tries to show them and that there are so many of their brothers and sisters who want what they want; peace and democracy. It’s a start for a more effective and more organized activities by the Iraqi people who were silenced for such a long time, and who till now are being terrorized inside their land.
Here’s the translation for the appeal as provided on line:
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Your Excellency, Mr. Kofi Annan,
Secretary General of the United Nations
We extend our best greetings and highest appreciation,
We, the undersigned, Iraqi civil society organizations as well as a group of Iraqi and Arab intellectuals are gravely concerned at the continuing attempts of certain governments to undermine the democratic process in Iraq. In the vanguard of these governments stands the French government. Since the start, this government has opposed the endeavours of the international community to help the Iraqi people end the despotic rule of Saddam Hussein, a rule that posed a threat to international peace and security, under the pretext of protecting the integrity of the Iraqi people. It threatened to resort to the veto in the UN Security Council to thwart any resolution which could help the Iraqi people rid themselves of the dictatorial regime.
After the liberation of Iraq under United States leadership and supported by many countries in the world, the French government called for the participation of the Baath party in the transitional government in spite of that party’s totalitarian thought, nationalistic fanaticism and sanguinary past. These efforts were repeated in different forms including the persistent call for the withdrawal of multinational forces from Iraq, forces which Iraq needs in order to ensure security. The last such effort was the French government’s demand to convene an international conference in Egypt to include governments and representatives of what it calls factions of the “Iraqi resistance”. We wish to confirm to you that this “resistance” is none other than an alliance of remnants of the ousted regime in Baghdad and non-Iraqi Islamist and extremist terrorist groups affiliated to the Al Qaida organization led by Osama Ben Laden whose Iraq branch is headed by the Jordanian terrorist Abu Musab Al Zarqawi, as well as organized crime gangs previously released by Saddam Hussein before his fall.
The Iraqi government objected to the presence of terrorists at this conference, one which is a gathering of governments and not a joint meeting with non-governmental organizations. This stance was supported by Iraqi civil society organizations. This notwithstanding, the French government submitted a new proposal calling for the holding of a special conference to which “factions of the Iraqi resistance” would be invited under the appellation “Iraqi civil society organizations”. This term implies that these are merely peace-loving civil society organizations which believe in democracy, reject violence and terrorism and strive to protect human rights and society by peaceful means. We do not know whether the French government has accepted that representatives of these terrorists groups would attend masked, or if it will ask them to remove their masks so that hostages would recognize their kidnappers and witnesses of beheadings would behold the face of murderers.
We believe that the purpose which the French government seeks through all of the above is to accord international legitimacy to terrorist groups in Iraq, delay elections sought by the Iraqi people and press for the withdrawal of the multinational forces before stability is established and before security and democracy are realized in Iraq. This contradicts Security Council resolution No. 1546 which was approved by the very same French Government, a resolution that gave the Iraqi Transitional Government the sole right and authority to demand the withdrawal of these forces. We believe that withdrawal of the multinational forces in this critical transitional phase in the life of the Iraqi people is tantamount to paving the road, either to the restoration of the Saddam Hussein regime– one that has filled Iraq with mass graves and displaced millions of its sons – so that it may pursue its persecution of the Iraqi people, or transform Iraq into a large hotbed that attracts criminals, thieves, murderers and terrorists turning it into a centre of international terrorism with the attendant threat to peace and security of the peoples of the region and the world.
We therefore appeal to you, Your Excellency the Secretary General, to call on the governments of the states neighbouring Iraq as well as the French government to rectify their negative positions vis-à-vis the Iraqi people and to join the international community in the bid to help Iraq and its people defeat terrorism, realize security and democracy and rebuild their country, thereby restoring peace and security to the Middle East region, key to security and stability in the world.
With sincere thanks and appreciation,
Signed
Cc:
1- President George Bush, President of the United States of America, the White House, Washington D.C.
2- Mr. Tony Blair, Prime Minister of the United Kingdom, 10 Downing Street, London.
3- Mr. Jack Straw, Foreign Minister, U.K Foreign Ministry, London.
4- President Vlademir Putin, President of the Russian Federation, Moscow.
5- President Guojia Zhuxi, President of the People’s Republic of China, Beijing.
6- President Jacques Chirac, President of France, Paris.
7- Mr. Gerhard Schroeder, Chancellor of Germany, Berlin.
8- Mrs. Benita Ferrero-Waldner, Commission of the European Union, Brussels.
9- Mr. Iyad Allawi, Prime Minister, Government of Iraq, Baghdad.
10- Mr. Hoshyar Zebari, Foreign Minister of Iraq, Baghdad.
11- Mr. Ahmed Abu Al Gheit, Foreign Minister of Egypt, Cairo.
12- Mr. Amr Mousa, Secretary General of the League of Arab States, Cairo.
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en>fr fr>en By simplefrench Comments: 65101, member since Wed Mar 19, 2003On Sun Oct 31, 2004 10:36 AM
Edited by simplefrench (60194) on 2004-10-31 10:37:36
"France blocked the democratic path in Algeria and now Iraq. "
more than 30 after french leaved algeria, they are still non democratic and it is not the fault of france, i would say the opposite . | token en>fr fr>en By haywood_jay  Comments: 7630, member since Tue Mar 11, 2003On Sun Oct 31, 2004 10:48 AM
more than 30 after french leaved algeria, they are still non democratic and it is not the fault of france, i would say the opposite .
So what you are saying is that it IS France's fault that Algeria is not democratic. Thanks for clearing that up. | re: What Iraqis think of the French government: France is the biggest enemy (karma: 1)
en>fr fr>en By simplefrench Comments: 65101, member since Wed Mar 19, 2003On Sun Oct 31, 2004 10:51 AM
no the opposite . | re: What Iraqis think of the French government: France is the biggest enemy (karma: 1)
en>fr fr>en By Ihatefrance Comments: 2657, member since Tue Feb 18, 2003On Sun Oct 31, 2004 11:07 AM
Fuck Algeria. Why are you trying to stop the democratic process in Iraq, you oil-stealing cocksucker? | re: What Iraqis think of the French government: France is the biggest enemy en>fr fr>en By simplefrench Comments: 65101, member since Wed Mar 19, 2003On Sun Oct 31, 2004 11:09 AM
Edited by simplefrench (60194) on 2004-10-31 11:09:42
we never searched oil in algeria . actually, there are some US troops to protect oil field in algeria .
you search americans ? FOLLOW THE OIL  | re: What Iraqis think of the French government: France is the biggest enemy (karma: 1)
en>fr fr>en By TexanForever Comments: 21011, member since Thu Jun 10, 2004On Sun Oct 31, 2004 11:16 AM
Why do the French people put profit for French officials above food and medicine for starving Iraqi babies ? | re: What Iraqis think of the French government: France is the biggest enemy (karma: 1)
en>fr fr>en By EiffelCowards Comments: 4326, member since Mon Mar 15, 2004On Sun Oct 31, 2004 11:16 AM
France vies for the oil riches of Africa
By Julio Godoy
Updated Aug 27, 2004, 12:04 am Refer this article
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PARIS (IPS/GIN)— The French government announced in July that it is due to sign a military pact with former colony Algeria that would include weapons and technology transfer, training and intelligence sharing.
The agreement was negotiated by French defense minister Michele Alliot-Marie on a visit to Algiers July 19. Alliot-Marie, the first French defense minister to visit Algeria since the end of the bloody war of independence in 1962, said the “historic” agreement will “turn a page” in French-Algerian history.
Foreign minister Michel Barnier visited Algiers earlier in July to discuss new cooperation. Finance minister Nicolas Sarkozy followed his colleagues later in the month to approve a $2.5 billion aid package.
France has invited Algerian President Abdelaziz Bouteflika to a commemoration of the liberation of south France from Nazi occupation in 1944, although French veterans of the liberty struggle have opposed the move.
Analysts say these actions seek to secure access to Algerian oil and gas resources to counter similar efforts by the U.S.
“The French government wants to counter the diplomatic advances achieved by the Bush government in Algeria in particular, and in West Africa in general,” says Francois Gèze, an expert in French-Algerian relations. In an article in Le Monde written with Algerian-born scholar Lahouari Addi who lives in France in exile, Mr. Gèze condemned the “French alliance with a criminal regime.”
Mr. Gèze told IPS that the Algerian government has detained and tortured opposition leaders for more than a decade now. But given the anti-terrorism climate, Algeria represents what “the ‘great’ Western countries wish for in the Arab world”—a government ready to cooperate with the United States whatever its domestic record.
France has been building diplomatic relations across West Africa. This includes Gabon, ruled by Omar Bongo since 1966; Congo Brazzaville, ruled by Denis Sassou-Nguesso who came to power in 1997 following a civil war that cost hundreds of thousands of lives; and Angola, where former independence hero José Eduardo dos Santos has been in power since 1979.
In a recent instance of new “cooperation,” the French government dealt with dos Santos to protect French citizen Pierre Falcone charged with transfer of weapons to Angola. Mr. dos Santos named Mr. Falcone Angolan ambassador to the United Nations Educational, Scientific and Cultural organization (UNESCO) headquartered in Paris. The appointment would provide him diplomatic immunity...... | re: What Iraqis think of the French government: France is the biggest enemy (karma: 4)
en>fr fr>en By kassaq Comments: 6647, member since Fri Feb 28, 2003On Sun Oct 31, 2004 11:16 AM
Why are you trying to stop the democratic process in Iraq, you oil-stealing cocksucker? That's easy, the French are using the lives of Iraqis as pawns in their political game to attempt to discredit the US for not having listened to their infinite wisdom. The spiteful scumbags have zero morals, they'd rather see millions of Iraqis die than to see America succeed in Iraq. | re: What Iraqis think of the French government: France is the biggest enemy (karma: 1)
en>fr fr>en By simplefrench Comments: 65101, member since Wed Mar 19, 2003On Sun Oct 31, 2004 11:20 AM
Edited by simplefrench (60194) on 2004-10-31 11:21:47
effelcoward .
northafrica is stable since decades . don't make the mess there . | re: What Iraqis think of the French government: France is the biggest enemy (karma: 2)
en>fr fr>en By NahnCee Comments: 12102, member since Mon Oct 13, 2003On Sun Oct 31, 2004 11:32 AM
You know, simple, you can have a tumor on the brain and be stable. Doesn't mean it's a healthy way to live, though.
I keep telling my Arab friends that there are more important things than peace. I think even more evident is that there are more important things than stability, too.
I'm pretty sure if you stopped to think about it, you would agree. | re: What Iraqis think of the French government: France is the biggest enemy en>fr fr>en By Uncle_Meat Comments: 22162, member since Sat Mar 15, 2003On Sun Oct 31, 2004 11:32 AM
The fuking french do it again. It's time we nationalize all their overseas assets and give the proceeds to the Arab people everywhere inthe world. | |
re: What Iraqis think of the French government: France is the biggest enemy en>fr fr>en By simplefrench Comments: 65101, member since Wed Mar 19, 2003On Sun Oct 31, 2004 11:34 AM
Edited by simplefrench (60194) on 2004-10-31 11:34:41
North africa has absolutely not a tumor . Keep your bullshit and steal the oil(sic) | re: What Iraqis think of the French government: France is the biggest enemy en>fr fr>en By BadStinkies Comments: 1355, member since Wed Sep 22, 2004On Sun Oct 31, 2004 11:42 AM
In the vanguard of these governments stands the French government.
Boy, it didn't take the free Iraqis long to see the who the real enemy is.  Laughing my ass off. K+ NahnCee.
The agreement was negotiated by French defense minister Michele Alliot-Marie on a visit to Algiers July 19. Alliot-Marie, the first French defense minister to visit Algeria since the end of the bloody war of independence in 1962, said the “historic” agreement will “turn a page” in French-Algerian history.
HAHA.. Yeah. That means this time they will try exploitation to get their hands on the black gold, instead of just murdering all of the Algerians and replacing them with froganistani nationals.
Froganistan: Lower than dog shit on a froganistani sidewalk. | re: What Iraqis think of the French government: France is the biggest enemy (karma: 1)
en>fr fr>en By simplefrench Comments: 65101, member since Wed Mar 19, 2003On Sun Oct 31, 2004 11:45 AM
Edited by simplefrench (60194) on 2004-10-31 12:04:16
it is curious . you have never been in algeria and since the iraqi war, you are there .
can you explain me that ? Imperialism ?
so we react and we made a business with algeria . but we are completely in peace with them .
the colony is finished since more than 40 years . | re: What Iraqis think of the French government: France is the biggest enemy (karma: 1)
en>fr fr>en By BadStinkies Comments: 1355, member since Wed Sep 22, 2004On Sun Oct 31, 2004 12:21 PM
it is curious . you have never been in algeria and since the iraqi war, you are there .
Hmmm.. Surprise? We have 3 good reasons for being there.
1.) Your utter failure colonizing Algeria has left it a shambles threatened by the Islamist. We have to do something or have another islamist state created. Thanks for that BTW. As if we didn't already have enough to do.
2.) Poking you in the eye. Since froganistan is now the enemy of democracy everywhere, probably a little 'realpolitik' is called for. Time to take your sandbox away. We will simply do to you what we have done to the Soviet Union. You just won't last as long.
3.) Business relationships. The Algerians have products to sell, and we have money to buy if they wish to sell to us.
NOTE: Buy/Sell not Steal/Kill like froganistan attempted there. | re: What Iraqis think of the French government: France is the biggest enemy en>fr fr>en By simplefrench Comments: 65101, member since Wed Mar 19, 2003On Sun Oct 31, 2004 12:25 PM
Edited by simplefrench (60194) on 2004-10-31 12:26:49
1/ complete bullshit
2 / we are the soviet union . breaking news . i did not know and i VOTE
3/ yes it is your right but you hide something .
4/ NExt | re: What Iraqis think of the French government: France is the biggest enemy (karma: 1)
en>fr fr>en By kassaq Comments: 6647, member since Fri Feb 28, 2003On Sun Oct 31, 2004 12:28 PM
Edited by kassaq (58234) on 2004-10-31 12:33:54
northafrica is stable since decades .
-simpleretard
LOL
Armed Islamic Group
Algeria, Islamists
What is the Armed Islamic Group?
The Armed Islamic Group (known by its French acronym, GIA) is a radical offshoot of Algeria’s main Islamist opposition.
Since the North African country plunged into a bloody civil war in 1992, the group has been linked to terrorist attacks in Europe and to the massacres of tens of thousands of civilians in Algeria.
In the past few years, many GIA members have joined other splinter Islamist groups or have been jailed or killed in government crackdowns. The GIA is now thought to have between a few hundred and a few thousand operatives and is listed on the U.S. roster of foreign terrorist groups.
How was the GIA formed?
Out of a bitter struggle for control of Algeria between Islamists and the country’s authoritarian leadership. After winning independence from France in 1962, the country was governed by a socialist party called the National Liberation Front (FLN). Following a series of youth riots in the late 1980s, the FLN allowed the country’s first multiparty elections. When a party of moderate and radical Islamists called the Islamic Salvation Front (FIS) won a round of parliamentary elections in 1991, the FLN nullified the victory and banned the FIS. The resultant public outcry turned violent, and the paramilitary wing of the FIS began targeting security forces. The GIA emerged as one of several radical FIS splinter factions that have continued to fight against Algeria’s FLN-supported, military-dominated regimes, from the government that ruled the country until 1999 to the current, more conciliatory leadership.
What does the GIA want?
According to the State Department, the GIA “aims to overthrow the secular Algerian regime and replace it with an Islamic state.” Beyond that, however, the GIA has not articulated precise political goals, and GIA cells are said to operate independently. Most recent GIA attacks are thought to be either acts of retribution, assaults on wayward members, or simple banditry.
Whom does the GIA target?
Both Algerians and others. The GIA’s massacres of civilians reached their height in the mid-1990s. Other GIA targets have included Algerian journalists, intellectuals, and secular schools. More recently, the GIA was thought to be behind two bombings in Algiers in August 2001.
The GIA is also accused of killing more than one hundred foreigners, mostly Europeans, since 1993. The group has a particular disdain for France, the country’s former colonial ruler and a major supporter of Algeria’s military-backed regime. In 1994, GIA members hijacked an Air France flight, and in late 1999, a French court convicted several GIA members for a series of bombings in France in 1995.
Does the GIA have ties to al-Qaeda?
Possibly. Experts say that some GIA leaders may have had contact with Osama bin Laden while fighting in the 1979-89 Afghan war against the Soviet Union. Bin Laden’s al-Qaeda terrorist network also includes some Algerians, and European authorities have arrested dozens of Algerian militants suspected of being al-Qaeda operatives plotting attacks on European cities, perhaps involving chemical weapons.
But while the full extent of the connection between the GIA and al-Qaeda is unclear, experts say, it is probably at least somewhat limited. The GIA operates principally in Algeria, and its objectives are more local than al-Qaeda’s ambitions for a global holy war. But some intelligence officials say that al-Qaeda’s leadership is increasingly interested in using national Islamist movements such as the GIA to breathe new life into the wounded al-Qaeda network.
Does the GIA target Americans?
The GIA has not targeted Americans in Algeria. But some Algerian terrorists who have tried to attack the United States may be linked to the GIA. In December 1999, Ahmed Ressam, an Algerian living in Montreal, was arrested at the U.S.-Canadian border with a carload of explosives; he was later convicted of plotting a millennium-eve attack on Los Angeles International Airport. Ressam has since led authorities to alleged co-conspirators in Canada and the United States.
www.cfrterrorism.org . . .
After a century of rule by France, and in the wake of 1948 elections rigged by French colonists to reverse the sweeping victory of a Muslim political party in 1947, Algerians fought through the 1950s to achieve independence in 1962. Algeria's primary political party, the National Liberation Front (FLN), has dominated politics ever since. Many Algerians in the subsequent generation were not satisified, however, and moved to counter the FLN's centrality in Algerian politics. The surprising first round success of the fundamentalist Islamic Salvation Front (FIS) in the December 1991 balloting spurred the army to intervene and postpone the second round of elections to prevent an extremist-led government from assuming power. The Algerian army began a crack down on the FIS that resulted in a continuous low-grade civil conflict between Islamic activists and the secular state apparatus. The government later allowed elections featuring pro-government and moderate religiously-based parties, but did not appease the activists who progressively widened their attacks. Operations by the activists and the army resulted in nearly 100,000 deaths during the decade-long conflict. The government gained the upper hand by the mid-1990s and FIS's armed wing, the Islamic Salvation Army, disbanded in January 2000. Many armed militants of other groups surrendered under an amnesty program designed to promote national reconciliation, but small numbers of armed militants persist in confronting government forces and conducting ambushes and occasional attacks on villages. Issues facing the winner of the April 2004 presidential election include Berber unrest, large-scale unemployment, a shortage of housing, the presence of a group in the southern regions of the country that kidnapped European tourists in 2003, as well as the need to diversify Algeria's petroleum-based economy. Algeria assumed a two-year seat on the UN Security Council in January 2004.
www.cia.gov . . .
MASSACRES OF CIVILIANS, CIVIL WAR, LARGE SCALE UNEMPLOYMENT, BOMBINGS, HIJACKINGS, KIDNAPPING, BERBER UNREST, ... LOOKS STABLE TO ME. | re: What Iraqis think of the French government: France is the biggest enemy (karma: 1)
en>fr fr>en By simplefrench Comments: 65101, member since Wed Mar 19, 2003On Sun Oct 31, 2004 12:31 PM
Edited by simplefrench (60194) on 2004-10-31 12:33:21
Edited by simplefrench (60194) on 2004-10-31 12:33:38
The islamist revolution is finished since many years and that was during 7 years .
and you know why, this revolution ended without foreign interventions . and in addition, marocco,tunisia and lybia have not been touched .
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en>fr fr>en By NahnCee Comments: 12102, member since Mon Oct 13, 2003On Sun Oct 31, 2004 12:37 PM
simple, you had said one time that winter is the time for skiing, so I'm going to assume that you ski.
As a skier do you think it's OK to let that big bunch of snow up there on the mountain alone because right now it's stable? If you call out to who-ever you're skiing with to slow down because you're not as good as they are, the snow could turn into an avalanche because of the sound of your voice disturbs it.
I guess if you want to ski the same way you're going through life, very slowly and carefully and making sure not to make any loud noises, you *might* be alright and not become avalanche'd. The snow *might* make it through to spring without erupting, and then disappear, and Algeria *might* become civilized on its own and not erupt in another Jihad war.
However, think of what we're doing in the Middle East (including pre-avalanche stabile-right-now Algeria) as setting off surgical explosions meant to defuse the danger. Although that defusion must necessarily mean, too, that any apparent current stability will momentarily disappear.
But then, afterwards, the goal is that you will be able to ski in peace (unless you wrap yourself around a tree like Sonny Bono and break your neck), and I can shop (not a lot of lethal trees on Rodeo Drive). And neither one of us will have to be dodging mujahadeen. | re: What Iraqis think of the French government: France is the biggest enemy en>fr fr>en By FrogFryer Comments: 39926, member since Wed Apr 16, 2003On Sun Oct 31, 2004 12:39 PM
france is the enemy of humanity the stupid selfish greedy assholes
K + | re: What Iraqis think of the French government: France is the biggest enemy en>fr fr>en By simplefrench Comments: 65101, member since Wed Mar 19, 2003On Sun Oct 31, 2004 12:40 PM
A lot people think that muslims must resolve themself their problems. | re: What Iraqis think of the French government: France is the biggest enemy en>fr fr>en By kassaq Comments: 6647, member since Fri Feb 28, 2003On Sun Oct 31, 2004 12:40 PM
Edited by kassaq (58234) on 2004-10-31 12:46:01
The islamist revolution is finished since many years and that was during 7 years . You said that "North Africa has been stable FOR DECADES". Just admit you were wrong and stop embarrassing yourself. | re: What Iraqis think of the French government: France is the biggest enemy en>fr fr>en By simplefrench Comments: 65101, member since Wed Mar 19, 2003On Sun Oct 31, 2004 12:42 PM
DERCADES ? | re: What Iraqis think of the French government: France is the biggest enemy en>fr fr>en By kassaq Comments: 6647, member since Fri Feb 28, 2003On Sun Oct 31, 2004 12:45 PM
A lot people think that muslims must resolve themself their problems. That's fine by me, they can kill themselves as much as they want. But when they start slamming planes into OUR buildings, slaughter innocent school children and sploding themselves up in OUR countries, it becomes OUR problem too. |
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