if you think only exports can pull you out of the fucking mess your in your dreaming .sure german exporters are smiling .
for the 900th time big deal exports are only a slice of a truly healthy economy .


oh yeah leadrat

the cost of ocean freight across the globe has been dropping for the last few months due to most of the globe slowing to a freakin crawl . dont think so check it out .exports PFFT from your decreped countries you wont be exporting shit anyway CHA CHA CHA CHUMPS . frieght rates are a pretty good indicator on the health of the global economy . and they can move up and down pretty fast on demand for containers and a space on ships trust me on that one

Bush is making the dollar more expensive

Sorry, it must be caused to a mistranslation.

Does not "to drop" means "to fall down" ?

That's what I meant...

Sorry, it must be caused to a mistranslation.

Does not "to drop" means "to fall down" ?

That's what I meant...

The President of the United States does not set currency exchange rates. That's done by the market forces of supply and demnad.

fucken free fall

1 EUR =
1.21084 1.00000

I know, Uncle, but by basically doing nothing about it (decreasing the debt, for example), he pushed it down, no ?

And I never said that exports were an indication of a good economy. Nor a high GDP, by te way. Only a diversified and "spread out" (once again, not sure with the translation) economy is safe and fair.

But beeing in deficit in this balance is obviously not a good sign.

To me, it seems that the situation is going back to the normal. Euro was overestimated.

i wrote last few months before it should belast few weeks about 7 to be exact . its the begining of the eighth just making myself clear. and all you guys think i know how to say is fuck .
im fuckin wired man i gets da vibes LIKE WOW

its a gift

the cost of ocean freight across the globe has been dropping for the last few months

euros flat all night

just cashed out early sweet night and im gonna sleep , i never get to greedy fuckin A. adigato buddha. I feel like i gotta leave an offering somewhere

im goin outside to piss on something

fuck the dead euro and fuckie france destroyer of le euro

im goin outside to piss on something

K frogfryer, I didnt' understand much of your last post lol, but you did call the top of the euro a long time ago. I called the short top over the christmas and new years when trading volume was down, you said that was the top for the year. I had my doubts to be honest but you da man, that bitch has been sinking ever since. If I remember correctly the top was 1.36 or 1.37, with the leverage you get in forex I could have literally made a small fortune if I shorted it then.

I got burned once in forex and have been acting like a bitch about it ever since, the non would have been easy money in the bank and I punked out thinking it was too easy. I'm up almost %50 on google since april, but thats chump change compared to the money I could have made with if I leveraged my money and shorted the euro.

We should start a fuck france portfolio, fucking france is definetly a profitable business to be in. Google is on a tear, Boeing hits a new 52 week high every other day and should roll for the next couple of years at least, and the euro is dropping faster than a frenchman drops to his knees when his muslim master calls. What do they all have in common besides being great investments, they are fucking france. Boeing is eating airbust's lunch, google has the french so angry they are ready to start a culture war, and the euro is on its way out because of the non and the political instability it has created.

who knew fucking france was so profitable

I hope your rolling in dough frogfryer, cheers.

nikkei libs, the nikkei. i've been hot on japan.
second time i did it on the nikkei this month libs but no one noticed.( ive traded at least a dozen times , day trades on nikkei over the last 6 weeks) with all the good news coming out of japan , this time on the strength of the dollar gets the japs hard ons, always does . they rikey RIKEY RIKEY.no more then 20 minutes after i opened my fuckin mouth last night the news services started blastin nikkei up on dollar strength . ( bloomberg didnt first report it untill fuckin 3 hours after i said it ) from what I hear all day from other sources and just reading bloomberg who updates their stories with reporters based all around the world and a few other things like me doing business all over the place( i hear things on le phone ) I can get a feeling on what to play. why do you think im so fucking good with textiles i get the vibe on shit 6 months to a year in advance and run em .im usually right . if i wasnt id be a broke ass bum .

I did the same thing a few weeks ago again i was reading all this good news coming out of Nippon and Im wathchin the nikkei dive that whole fuckin week, so I sez to myself i gotta be nuts not to get in on something. same thing I get in so im in front of my computers, I log on to fuck france what else right how can ya resist, I say the same thing just played a couple things on the nikkei its going to take off. Opening bell BOOM takeoff , half hour later the news services what are they reporting nikkei takes off. but thats just stock markets .I do that well depends on the week how many times ill day trade at least once .i dont tell you guys my picks especially when im doing a day trade or something because i dont want anyone to lose money . between those two scores on the nikkei I got my ass handed to me one night i i lost 320 g's that night it was in under 4 hours too that i lost it, i was crying on the board WAH i got creamed . thats why i dont really ever say what im playing its risky .


as for the euro and le dollar, interest rates always effect the currency no matter what they say . reporters will spin it a million different ways it dont matter ,the state of anything economically... IRRELEVANT. it works every time.its a fuckin valve.1.36 that was the floor , Dollars solid

my mistake is I thought i'd get more play out of the eastern euro currencies . YOU ! what the fuck was i thinking! i could of did 7 figures in a day and then again on that spike back up .Well your in on some or your not in ,you cant be in on everything. and once something starts like a bottoming out and i dont get in right away ill stay away from it . im weird like that. sometimes when i get a hard on for something you cant sway my decision either and i was hard for east europe. its ok though i did AOK on the zloty the first night, still holding the Koruna's.
anyway if they actually cut the interest rate in europe they may cause another big dip not that its going to stop dropping it'll fluctuate of course but all i can smell is down for right now . to what degree depends on the market that day . and ill say it again they wanna hang this frenchman at the ecb he should of dropped rates last year . its gonna be to little to late in my book he should of acted then ( look at us for example of not acting EURO LOL ) quarter, half point, notta gonna doa shita for their economies .But will put even more downward pressure on a currency BANK ON IT, whos days are more then likely numbered . why you think one the reasons pound sterling so strong what are the brits at 4 and 3/4's ?

K frogfryer, I didnt' understand much of your last post lol, but you did call the top of the euro a long time ago. I called the short top over the christmas and new years when trading volume was down, you said that was the top for the year. I had my doubts to be honest but you da man, that bitch has been sinking ever since. If I remember correctly the top was 1.36 or 1.37, with the leverage you get in forex I could have literally made a small fortune if I shorted it then.

i own some boeing but thats in my longer then a day portfolio no google though .
and lol you should see my call on airbus last year im a little off on timing on the production line but other then that im dead dead dead on . im just waitin to rub it in peety's and atlunatics face although i dont think ill be around to enjoy it .its just starting to dawn on them now . and i see a brits pulling out of airbus thread? i gotta go write a crash! TEE HEE . thier some other calls on the board im dead on with also. it just come natural to me its a fuckin gift from god.

this shit make anysense to ya ? LOL dont matter im giddy this morning all that flthy cash i made last night and i got orders coming out the ass over here this morning.


let me go write crash on atlunitic's thread then i gotta go ride somebodys ass over here see ya little while .

happy investing

Euro Drops to 9-Month Low as Issing Spurs Rate-Cut Speculation

June 13 (Bloomberg) -- The euro fell to a nine-month low against the dollar after European Central Bank Chief Economist Otmar Issing spurred speculation the bank may reduce interest rates for the first time since 2003.

``In the past, financial markets almost always anticipated ECB policy decisions correctly,'' he told Germany's Der Spiegel magazine when asked if investors' expectations of a rate cut in coming months are justified. Interest-rate futures contracts in Europe indicate traders expect rates to be lowered by September.

The euro is down 11 percent against the dollar this year as the region's economic expansion falters and the ECB keeps its benchmark rate at a six-decade low of 2 percent. Traders, investors and strategists are more bearish on the euro than they've been in more than two years, a Bloomberg survey showed.

Against the dollar, the euro dropped to $1.2045 at 10:26 a.m. in New York, from $1.2120 late on June 10, according to electronic currency-dealing system EBS. The dollar strengthened to 109.46 yen from 108.67.

Issing ``is preparing investors for a rate cut, and the market is responding to that by selling euros and buying dollars,'' said Neil Jones, a director of foreign-exchange sales at BNP Paribas SA in London. Jones said the euro may weaken to $1.1750 in the next few weeks.

ECB spokesman Nils Buenemann in Frankfurt confirmed the remarks in today's edition of Der Spiegel. He said an advance report of the interview released on June 11 was incomplete.

`Capitulation Trend'

The dollar also rose against the British pound, Swiss franc, South Korean won and the Canadian dollar.
OHHHHH what a fuckin shocker. i just said yesterday they are slowly backing out
``The big trend remains the capitulation trend,'' said Todd Elmer, a currency strategist at Barclays Capital Inc. in New York. ``Managers are using all excuses to buy back dollars against most major currencies, which in part explains why the euro is not moving much against other currencies.'' Versus the yen, the euro was little changed at 131.87. It fell to an 11- month low of 130.73 yen on June 7.

The three-month Euribor interest-rate futures contract for September, a gauge of rate expectations for that month, approached a record low today. The yield on the contract has tumbled 44 basis points from a high of 2.50 percent on Jan. 4 and was at 2.065 percent today.

The contract settles to the three-month euro area inter- bank rate offered rate. The contract's yield has averaged 15 basis points more than the ECB's key rate since 1999. A basis point is 0.01 percentage point.

Issing, who votes on rates at the ECB, also said slowing growth is easing concerns about inflation. The spread between 10-year U.S. Treasury notes and similar-maturity German bonds widened to 92.1 basis points today from 90.8 basis points on June 10. A week ago the difference was 73 basis points.

`Critical Levels'

``Rate differentials have reached critical levels,'' said Umberto Alvisi, a currency strategist in London at Credit Suisse First Boston. ``This is clearly supportive of the dollar. We expect this dollar strength to continue.''

Japan's currency weakened to an eight-month low against the dollar. The yen's drop accelerated after it fell to 109, where automatic orders to sell it were placed, said Geoff Kendrick, a currency strategist at Westpac Banking Corp. in London.

Traders typically place pre-set orders to buy or sell a currency to limit losses in the event bets go the wrong way. Currency strategists in Tokyo including Toshi Honda at Mizuho Corporate Bank Ltd. said most of the buying came from non- Japanese institutions.

``There is still momentum in the dollar and people are going after this trend,'' said Marios Maratheftis, a currency strategist at Standard Chartered Plc in London.

Santomero Comments

Earlier today, a Japanese government report showed the nation's economy grew at an annual 4.9 percent pace in the first quarter, down from an initial estimate of 5.3 percent.

The Fed has increased its target rate for overnight loans between banks eight times since June last year to 3 percent. The Bank of Japan has held borrowing costs near zero for four years.

no shit every report that says thier stopping is a fuckin lie , for now
``I expect we will continue to move the federal funds rate toward neutrality at a measured pace,'' Fed Bank of Philadelphia President Anthony Santomero said in a speech on June 11 to the Pennsylvania Association of Community Bankers and the American Association of Bank Directors in Washington.

Eighty percent of the 44 participants polled by Bloomberg on June 10 said to sell the euro against the dollar, up from 47 percent a week earlier.

`Hawkish'

``Issing is one of the more hawkish ECB council members,'' said Derek Halpenny, a currency strategist in London at the Bank of Tokyo- Mitsubishi Ltd. ``It was quite a subtle comment, but it was effective. In that sense it is certainly helping support interest-rate differentials, which is part of reason euro-dollar is down here.''

Declines in the euro may be limited as a technical indicator suggests its slide is excessive. The euro's 14-day relative strength index against the dollar fell to 24.74 today. A level above 70 or below 30 in the index, a gauge of momentum in a given period, may signal a change in direction.

the killers will drive it up again sooner or later, rape everyone then bail. downward pressure is still thier makashi takashi toyota, notice how he says " FOR TODAY "
``The euro may rebound as it's dropped so fast,'' said Takashi Toyahara, a currency trader in Tokyo at Nomura Securities Co. ``The RSI indicates there will be some correction. I don't see much downside risk for the euro from here for today.'' The euro may rise to $1.2180 today, he said.

Was ...

1 EUR = US$ 1.29184 as of 2005.04.12 21:39 Universal Time (GMT).

Now ...

1 EUR = US$ 1.20631 as of 2005.06.13 16:21 Universal Time (GMT).

Now, I'd like you to explain this to me :



I don't get it. Is the Euro crashing, or ALL the currencies exept dollar and Danish crown ?

Hey FF,

You been looking at the oil sector? Theres a doozy out there called MPET. I just rode that sucker up 20% today. Still holding. According to the buzz, thars oil in dem der hills!!

Now, I'd like you to explain this to me :



I don't get it. Is the Euro crashing, or ALL the currencies exept dollar and Danish crown ?

That is a table of exchange rates what it is saying is the euro has lost 10.69% of its value to the dollar since the first of the year.

It sucks to hold euros right now. There's no telling how low it will go ...

Good explanation.

I don't get it. Is the Euro crashing, or ALL the currencies exept dollar and Danish crown ?

the euro is crashing, the non vote and the uncertain future of the EU has and is destroying confidence in the euro. There are alot of other factors but thats why it has dropped so much so fast. It would have dropped anyway but at a slower pace, and maybe not as far.

every penny the euro drops vs. the dollar costs france millions more to import oil.

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!


ROFLMFAO!!!!

sorry i didnt answer ya's was out all afternoon

euro's a leper to money guys right now ,to much uncertainty like libs say but you can make alot of money when things are volital . alot of factors but the main one is the NO, read the thread . and every individual will give you a slightly different take. and the reports we post sometimes those managers have a reason for what they say if ya know what i mean their sitting on billions in other peoples money .you can make money on the way down though kid you gotta know what your doing . be careful if your young I recommend something like what frog baseball is up too if you wanna play, stay away from the currency markets thats for big boys.

I don't get it. Is the Euro crashing, or ALL the currencies except dollar and Danish crown ?

oil thats libs department

ill take a lookie MPET

(MAGELLAN PETROLEUM CORPORATION)

you were up 37.35% for the day after hours your looking a little down nice spike though today

i dont like the 52 week range

it hasnt been over 2.50 in 2 years 1996 was at 4

BUZZ huh? what info you holdin out on something juicy HUH HUH HUH ?

when i first started investing i loved little stocks like that. i would buy as much as I can when i picked something . especially when the nasdaq was WILD BABY.they would double, triple, FUCKIN SPLITS .AHHH good times.

Hey FF,

You been looking at the oil sector? Theres a doozy out there called MPET. I just rode that sucker up 20% today. Still holding. According to the buzz, thars oil in dem der hills!!

Sitting out tonight im looking at a couple things for wedsnday I got nippon fevor last few weeks.

make money boys good luck & happy investing

killers playin with it like a rag doll ? UMM could be

i gotta get in on this action, next run up maybe .

MPET took a bit of a shellacking today but keep an eye on it. Cheap and volatile enough lately to be a good daytrade stock in this flat market. But it also has solid support and very good prospects in Australia. With all this buzz about it's jumping around like crazy. Lookit the volume:


Notice the trends the last 3 days. Opens high, peters out a bit, and on Monday it rallied like a beast near the close. Volume is HUGE - this baby is drawing some attention.

finance.messages.yahoo.com . . .
finance.messages.yahoo.com . . .

But hell who knows, it's just fun to play the game

hells yeah.

But hell who knows, it's just fun to play the game

im staring at the euro and all i see is steady a little up and downs , then spikes, then straight down drops. three in a fuckin row. how long will it go on GOOD FUCKIN QUESTION
thier playing AND IM SITTING HERE WITH MY THUMB UP MY ARSE

im seriously thinking on riding the next one

the problem is will thier be a next one and when

timing mother fuckers

nikkei again for me tonight not doing to bad

I imagine if the Euro breaks that 1.20 resistance, down the hatch she goes for a few. With all the bickering going on between Blair and Shitcrac - the blame game about money - the EU dream shattered in front of froggy's eyes, that's enough FUD for gloating and a little profit on the side.

fuckin a

the downward momentum is still their . look at it every time after a drop the traders are driving it up and and then bang a quick sell off


theirs no other explanation in my humble opinion anyway. the news , press releases, and analysis is just driving little ups and downs. its to much of a question mark (the currency ) in my book.
hell i just read yesterday this is not going to continue I DONT FUCKIN BELIEVE IT FOR A SECOND

they be playin

its a rag doll just like the ol raggy played out continent of freakin death

what to do , SIGH . i think im just gonna watch if it happens again THATS FREAKIN IT. i'm hesitating (witch is death ) I need scotch . look at the timing too between ups & those cliffs .
am i seeing things? its pretty even between lulls

decisions, decisions , decisions

cheers

MPET to the moon Alice! Man I got burned daytrading this puppy. I'm holding long in this crazy oil market.

you gotta day trade with thousands / tens of thousands of shares to really make any money . for the 9 th frakin time thats the only way to do it

it almost hit 3.00 you seem to be on to something why did ya dump it ?

meanwhile thier goes the euro again, goin up if i see another cliff im gonna kick myself