germany is good .

but the majority of their medals come from :

skeleton,luge and bobsleg . they won all . (men and women)

i like these sports but it is more for the children

but the majority of their medals come from :

skeleton,luge and bobsleg . they won all . (men and women)

i like these sports but it is more for the children

I wouldn´t allow my son skeleton

but this time you´re not right Simplefrench. Please click the link and take a look on the small medal table then you see where they skim the most medals

sports.yahoo.com . . .

Situation, end of Day 12, Tuesday February 22

Rank Country G S B Total

1 European Union 33 27 30 90
2 USA 7 7 4 18
3 Russia 7 3 6 16
4 Canada 5 8 5 18
5 Switzerland 4 3 4 11
6 South Korea 4 3 1 8
7 Norway 2 8 8 18
8 China 1 3 4 8
9 Croatia 1 2 0 3
10 Australia 1 0 1 2
11 Bulgaria 0 1 0 1
12 Ukraine 0 0 2 2






EU detail:

Rank Member-State G S B Total

1 Germany 9 8 5 22
2 Austria 8 6 5 19
3 Sweden 4 2 4 10
4 Italy 4 0 6 10
5 France 3 2 3 8
6 Estonia 3 0 0 3
7 Netherlands 2 2 3 7
8 Finland 0 3 3 6
9 Czech Republic 0 2 0 2
10 Great Britain 0 1 0 1
10 Slovakia 0 1 0 1
12 Latvia 0 0 1 1

Atlantic,

It's time for you to earn some K.

I'll give you one for everytime the E.U. flag has been raised for the medal ceremonies, ok?

Just post links to images of the medal ceremonies where the E.U. flag was raised high, ok?

Do that for me and I'll send karma your way for each one. According to you, you can earn 90 of them, so get cracking.

Yes I know we are only a 2nd class winter sports nation and can´t compete with the French.

Really not my point.

My point was that, in the EU's diversity, there's always a group of countries to compensate for other countries' weaknesses.
And this is not only about sport.

If no member-state is indispensable, they all bring their specifity and particular skills that make the strenth of the block. Same for the US' states, even if a couple of States like California or New York dominate their union.

If one member fails at some point, there will always be another one to make it up for it.

Remember Athens' table?
Even more than in Turin, France didn't have to be ashamed of its contribution. Neither had Germany, of course.
But both of us only brought around 15% of the EU Gold medals total:

European Union wins Athens Olympics medal table

By Atlantic
On Sun Aug 29, 2004 02:56 PM




Athens 2004 Final Medals Table:

Rank Country Gold Silver Bronze Total

1 European Union 82 101 103 286
2 United States 35 39 29 103
3 China 32 17 14 63
4 Russia 27 27 38 92
5 Australia 17 16 16 49
6 Japan 16 9 12 37
7 South Korea 9 12 9 30
8 Cuba 9 7 11 27
9 Ukraine 9 5 9 23
10 Romania 8 5 6 19
11 Norway 5 0 1 6
12 Brazil 4 3 3 10
13 Canada 3 6 3 12
14 Turkey 3 3 4 10
15 New Zealand 3 2 0 5
16 Thailand 3 1 4 8
17 Belarus 2 6 7 15
18 Ethiopia 2 3 2 7
19 Iran 2 2 2 6
20 Taiwan 2 2 1 5
21 Georgia 2 2 0 4
22 Bulgaria 2 1 9 12
23 Jamaica 2 1 2 5
24 Uzbekistan 2 1 2 5
25 Morocco 2 1 0 3
26 Argentina 2 0 4 6
27 Chile 2 0 1 3
28 Kazakhstan 1 4 3 8
29 Kenya 1 4 2 7
30 South Africa 1 3 2 6
31 Croatia 1 2 2 5
32 Egypt 1 1 3 5
33 Switzerland 1 1 3 5
34 Indonesia 1 1 2 4
35 Zimbabwe 1 1 1 3
36 Azerbaijan 1 0 4 5
37 Bahamas 1 0 1 2
38 Israel 1 0 1 2
39 Cameroon 1 0 0 1
40 Dominican Republic 1 0 0 1
41 United Arab Emirates 1 0 0 1
42 North Korea 0 4 1 5
43 Mexico 0 3 1 4
44 Serbia and Montenegro 0 2 0 2
45 Hong Kong 0 1 0 1
46 India 0 1 0 1
47 Paraguay 0 1 0 1
48 Nigeria 0 0 2 2
49 Venezuela 0 0 2 2
50 Colombia 0 0 1 1
51 Eritrea 0 0 1 1
52 Mongolia 0 0 1 1
53 Syrian Arab Republic 0 0 1 1
54 Trinidad and Tobago 0 0 1 1




Detail EU:

Member-State Gold Silver Bronze Total

Germany 14 16 18 48
France 11 9 13 33
Italy 10 11 11 32
Great Britain 9 9 12 30
Hungary 8 6 3 17
Greece 6 6 4 16
Netherlands 4 9 9 22
Sweden 4 1 2 7
Spain 3 11 5 19
Poland 3 2 5 10
Austria 2 4 1 7
Slovakia 2 2 2 6
Denmark 2 0 6 8
Czech Republic 1 3 4 8
Lithuania 1 2 0 3
Belgium 1 0 2 3
Ireland 1 0 0 1
Latvia 0 4 0 4
Portugal 0 2 1 3
Finland 0 2 0 2
Slovenia 0 1 3 4
Estonia 0 1 2 3
Cyprus 0 0 0 0
Luxembourg 0 0 0 0
Malta 0 0 0 0

Total E.U. 82 101 103 286


The EU will be hosting the next Winter Olympics in Torino, Italy.
Guess who will top the medal table???

www.fuckfrance.com . . .

The EU is not a country - just a failing trading block,

Rules of the game reminder:


Rules

The game is simple:

The first player to guess:

1. The EU total, Gold and Silver (and therefore Bronze) medals tally: K+40

If no winner in situation 1. :

2. The EU total and Gold medals tally: K+20

If no winner in situation 1. and 2.:

3. The EU total medals tally: K+10

If no winner in situation 1. to 3. :

4. The EU Gold medals tally: K+5


- Only propositions containing the Gold, Silver, Bronze and Total bet are valid.
- In case of several bets for a given member, only the 1st valid one counts.
- Bets are open until Sunday February 26th, 8:00 CET (Paris and Turin time, 1:00 AM board time)
- You must give 1K to this post www.fuckfrance.com . . . to accept the rules and validate your bet.

Good Luck!


Elements to help you placing your bets:

Salt Lake City 2002:



34
40
33
Total: 107

- 79 Gold medals were given, there are 84 in Turin.
- Current EU result, as of end of day 12 is 33 Gold, 27 Silver and 30 Bronze.
- There are 20 Gold medals left to give until sunday.
- So far, the EU grasped 52% of the Gold medals.

My personal forecast posted on Sunday the 12th is:

40
33
37
Total: 110


www.fuckfrance.com . . .

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Read the rules, ibigmang!

- Only propositions containing the Gold, Silver, Bronze and Total bet are valid.
- You must give 1K to this post www.fuckfrance.com . . . to accept the rules and validate your bet.

Congrats

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40+K, really not bad and its so easy

A very successful google search


images.google.com . . .

0/0/0 is the correct answer.

Atlantic, pourrais tu préciser les règles dans le cas où personne n'ait un total exact ?

Comparing the EU to the US is totally meaningless bullshit. Its easy to see why.

Entry quotas and qualification criteria – individual distances
2. The total number of competitors from any country may not exceed ten (10) Ladies and ten (10) Men.

3. For the 500, 1000 and 1500 meters for Ladies and Men a country may enter a maximum of four (4) competitors for each event. For these distances there is no specific upper limit to the total number of competitors in each event.

4. For 3000 and 5000 meters Ladies and 5000 and 10,000 meters Men a country may enter a maximum of three (3) competitors in each event.

This is for ice skating. Thus, obviously, the "EU" or the many countries grouped under the EU, is running lots of teams in a single sporting event compared to a single team for the US.

Thus, your 'measure' is meaningless since its highly unfair.

dupe again..grrr

Okay, I'm in.

0 Gold
0 Silver
0 Bronze
0 Total

dupe

My point was that, in the EU's diversity, there's always a group of countries to compensate for other countries' weaknesses.
And this is not only about sport.

Yeah I know this system very well. I have learnt it in school between 1976 and 1985 on my gymnasium.

If my neighbor has not a good education and has not enough money to buy a middle class car I can pay him one or if he don´t want to work i must feed him. The system was practised in the former Warsaw pact.

Its very "famous" system: C*O*M*M*U*N*I*S*M

Ok pour moi, en espérant qu'Atlantic ait plus ou moins analysé le truc :

gold : 39
silver : 32
bronze : 38
total: 109

dupe again..grrr

More than you think!
This argument has been posted and reposted, and is not valid.

It's based on the presumption that all athletes have equal chances to get a medal.
This is, of course, not the case.

In a more compact EU single team, the numbers of medals would be about the same, as the limit of athletes a country can send already includes favorites, challengers, under-dogs and even athletes with no chance whatsoever. The EU would make no exception. The EU team would be more compact than the combination of 24 or 25 teams, but would still be the largest team in the competition because of the EU's population and of its athletes performances in qualifying competitions where they perform mimimum Olympic performances, key to selection.

It's true, however, that, in sports with such limits, the EU would be less likely to trust the podium.
However, on other sports such as team events and relays, the EU would be able to select a premium team able to get Gold, when no individual team would have such chances.

This would largely compensate the eventual loss of "luck-medals" that a large number of participants provides.
Luck medals would not change much the tremendous gap between the EU's current medals tally and the 2nd best one's.

It's also based on the fact that Olympic rules could not change, an unsurprising conservative conviction that is incorrect too.

If the EU would send a unique team, it would be enough of a revolution in the sporting movements for some rules to be adapted.
For instance, the limit of athletes per event and country could be risen (provided those athletes reach minimum performances). Also, in team events, a country could be able to send several teams like they do today in Bobsleigh, for instance.

Atlantic, you are an asshole, aren't you?

In Athens, the US sent more than 500 participants to get about 100 medals, 35 of Gold.

500 favorites, challengers, under-dogs, complete amateurs with no chance of medals.
35 Olympic champions! 7%

Who, out of those 500 athletes, could have become Olympic champion?
I want names!
Then why didn't you send them?

Before the Turin games started, I said France would get between 10 and 15 medals.
The 10th medal just arrived this morning.
We KNOW who can get medals and who cannot.
It's not a lottery.

ibigmang

Okay, I'm in.

0 Gold
0 Silver
0 Bronze
0 Total

Your bet is validated.
However, I don't see how the more than 100 medals already won by Euroepan Union's athletes could be all cancelled...

ArthurH

gold : 39
silver : 32
bronze : 38
total: 109

Ok, Arthur!
Encore un ptit effort!
Un ptit K ici:

Rules Acceptation and Bet Validation - Direct K+

And Atlantic, you have posted another dupe. The fact is, none of that matters. Your describing a hypothetical situation in you're own little world. You're not talking about the current facts. You're just telling us all how good you think a "Team EU" would do if it existed. It doesn't though. Maybe it will some day. I doubt it. But it doesn't matter. "Team EU" doesn't exist now, so there is no possibility for any medals to be won by this hypothetical team in these real Olympics. You can hypothesize all you like, but according to your rules, I can't possibly lose. If you try to weasel out of paying, you will be a real-life cheater. (Of imaginary cyber-currency, I'll admit)

"Encore un ptit effort!"

Ok ! mais quelques Ks pour remercier les participants d'entrée ne seraient pas de refus non plus !

Sinon, je n'ai toujours pas compris les règles au cas où personne n'a un total juste, je propose un lot de 40K fixe pour le premier avec les règles que tu as énoncées, et, si toujours pas déterminant pour désigner le vainqueur :

1) le plus proche sur le total global
2) si exequo le plus proche sur le total or entre les exequos
3) si exequo plus proche argent
4) si exequo plus proche bronze (cas stupide puisque égalité parfaite, donc tu paies 40 à chacun)

Et date limite de vote Vendredi soir , faut quand même pas déconner