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Hatemeister part deux: Will the real Steve stand up? (karma: 10)
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By shon  Comments: 708, member since Thu Mar 11, 1999
On Fri Apr 28, 2006 08:29 PM
Steve apologizes, but admits that a case of mistaken identity has occurred. Read on for the full unbelievable story...
Wonder of wonders, Steve apologizes for hurting my feelings. Where he got the idea he hurt my feelings I'll never know.
From: Jeff Dahmer (mrhogonice@yahoo.com)
To: shondeux@gmail.com, inquiries@mppalaw.com
Date: Apr 28, 2006 8:19 AM
Subject: Fwd: The behavior of Steven Graham
Note: forwarded message attached.
Mr. Ngo:
I am sorry I lost my composure and hurt your feelings.
I was extremely angry because you persisted in
publishing my copyrighted works without permission.
I must inform you that I am not the Steven Graham whom
you have reported to the Florida Bar, and whose
personal information you have published on your forum
at www.fuckfrance.com. I think you should be
aware that you may have committed one or more serious
crimes in publishing this information and tacitly
encouraging your members to harass Mr. Graham and his
associates.
I would suggest that you and I both calm down, and
that you do whatever you can to avoid harming Mr.
Graham further. There is no possibility whatsoever
that your actions will harm me, but you may have
exposed yourself to legal action over which I will
have no control.
__________________________________________________
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From: monkey@mppalaw.com
To: mrhogonice@yahoo.com
Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 17:58:15 -0500
Subject: The behavior of Steven Graham
I think you might be interested in the way Steven Graham has represented himself, and by proxy the fine firm of Mr Mathews and Mr Piazza and lawyers in general.
An example of his unprofessional behavior:
"Hey, asshole. This is a formal request for the name of your general counsel and your service agent for the state of Florida. If you don't have the guts to respond, it will actually make this easier for me, because I will still be able to serve you via the Florida Secretary of State and have a default judgment entered against you in the U.S. District Court of for the Southern District of Florida.
In addition to taking the time to draft and file a copyright infringement complaint, which you will have to defend here in Florida, I am making a pastime of compiling lists of your infringements of the copyrights of other entities, and I'm sending the lists to the proper contacts."
Here is the link:
www.eupolitique.com . . .
Not the type of behavior that I would want associated with my firm or lawyers in general.
A PUBLIC apology to the owner of the website should be made.
Other recipients of this email include:
inquiries@mppalaw.com
g***e@mppalaw.com
v***t@mppalaw.com
r***u@flabar.org
c***n@flabar.org
c***r@flabar.org
jeffreys***@aol.com
email@southpalmbeachbar.org
(Emails edited out by Shon)
Once again, Steve makes unfounded assumptions. I did not contact his firm or the Florida bar. I told him I would if he persisted in filing his nuisance suit.
My response:
From: Shon (shondeux@gmail.com)
To: Jeff Dahmer (mrhogonice@yahoo.com), "Hatemeister S." (steve@rollercoasterofhate.com)
Cc: monkey@mppalaw.com, vincent@mppalaw.com, george@mppalaw.com, steven@mppalaw.com
Date: Apr 28, 2006 5:30 PM
Subject: Re: The behavior of Steven Graham
Steve,
I appreciate the apology, but I need to correct your factual errors:
1. I did not "persist in publishing" your works. A member of the forum posted what you allege was your work, and a moderator corrected this problem upon notification.
2. In the named thread, without prompting from me, members researched and posted information about Mr. Graham that is publicly available; and yet again, in the interest of protecting privacy, a moderator stepped in and removed contact details.
3. I neither harassed nor encouraged any such behavior. The members are free to act and post as they wish. I only editorialized our correspondence. If this is yet another legal threat, you know where I stand on such matters.
If the "real" Steve Graham contacts me, I will be glad to correct any errors and publish his statements. Considering the errors and omissions in your email, I cannot take what you say at face value.
cc: members of mppalaw.com
Shon
Strangely, all the email to mppalaw.com bounced. Steve (who now fashions himself "The Oprah of Hate") gets friendly and serious now.
From: The Oprah of Hate (steve@rollercoasterofhate.com)
To: Shon (shondeux@gmail.com)
Date: Apr 28, 2006 6:26 PM
Subject: Re: The behavior of Steven Graham
I am going to respond in a serious and friendly manner, for what it's worth. I hope you will not consider this a hostile email. If you check with your own counsel, I believe you will find that the information I am about to give you, though perhaps overly cautious, is accurate.
Your problems with me are microscopic compared to the problems you may have brought upon yourself by permitting your members to involve Steven Graham's firm. You don't need to explain your defense to me; I can't help you. I don't know these people or what has been done to them this week or whether they plan to retaliate. I can't do anything to stop them. You should contact them instead of emailing me. I realize you are not likely to believe me when I say this, but being in another state is not going to protect you if they decide to take action. I speak from experience as a plaintiff's attorney in numerous federal cases. In fact, the majority of my experience has been in federal cases involving diverse parties. "Diverse" is a legal term meaning they were not located in the same states.
This guy has tremendous power and resources, compared to a layperson running a forum website as a hobby. For me, filing a suit involves considerable aggravation, because I have to take time off from writing. For him, it's one more half-hour task in an eight-hour day, and he has a staff waiting to help him.
If you really want to do this right, you would be wise to consult a criminal attorney in Colorado before even contacting Graham. I am not offering that suggestion as a blogger and humorist, but as a member of the bar communicating with an unrepresented person. My guess is that they will leave you alone if you call off the hounds and apologize, but a guess is worth what you pay for it.
I was not bluffing when I told you that the email to the bar was a waste of time. But it may serve as the basis for a tort action by Graham; I don't know if communications with a bar association are considered privileged or not. It is probably a complex factual question.
As for the copyright issue, all I can tell you is that I have worked the plaintiff's side in a good number of IP cases, including a copyright case involving Internet publishing, and we had no problem establishing jurisdiction or getting a default judgment from a Florida federal court.
Personally, even though I face absolutely no consequences here, I would be happy if the whole thing just went away. And that would be very easy for you to arrange. In return, I'll be glad to refrain from mentioning you or your site on my blog, or to comply with whatever other reasonable request you make in connection with this silly business.
For not knowing this Steve Graham, the Hatemeister sure knows a lot about him.
I'll have more to comment later, but thought I'd keep everybody in the loop in this developing drama...
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| re: Hatemeister part deux: Will the real Steve stand up? (karma: 1)
en>fr fr>en By SpikeCohen 
Comments: 9044, member since Wed Mar 19, 2003
On Fri Apr 28, 2006 08:44 PM
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Oh my God, please someone give this man some placenta so he will STFU already!
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|  re: Hatemeister part deux: Will the real Steve stand up? (karma: 2)
en>fr fr>en By shooliz
Comments: 6055, member since Mon Nov 29, 2004
On Fri Apr 28, 2006 08:47 PM
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Steve needs to.......
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|  re: Hatemeister part deux: Will the real Steve stand up? (karma: 5)
en>fr fr>en By chiracsapussy 
Comments: 21105, member since Sat Feb 08, 2003
On Fri Apr 28, 2006 08:49 PM
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way to involved, give me his picture and ill have him blow jossie
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|  re: Hatemeister part deux: Will the real Steve stand up? (karma: 2)
en>fr fr>en By Sharp
Comments: 12768, member since Fri Apr 23, 2004
On Fri Apr 28, 2006 08:52 PM
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What are the chances that there are 2 whack job attorneys in Florida that go by the name of Steve Grahm that don't actually know each other but somehow the hate meister knows that Steve Grahm is being sent emails from clever FFers? I was getting a headache trying to figure out what he asshat was saying.
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 re: Hatemeister part deux: Will the real Steve stand up? (karma: 1)
en>fr fr>en By shooliz
Comments: 6055, member since Mon Nov 29, 2004
On Fri Apr 28, 2006 08:53 PM
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From: Jeff Dahmer (mrhogonice@yahoo.com)
To: shondeux@gmail.com, inquiries@mppalaw.com
Date: Apr 28, 2006 8:19 AM
Subject: Fwd: The behavior of Steven Graham
I thought Jeff Dahmer was dead.
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|  re: Hatemeister part deux: Will the real Steve stand up? (karma: 6)
en>fr fr>en By usmc4ever
Comments: 718, member since Fri Dec 10, 2004
On Fri Apr 28, 2006 08:56 PM
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I think the buttmunch bit off more than he can chew and is now in the process of trying to step outta the pile of shit he stepped in.
And I agree with Spike, how the fuck he know so much about a guy from another state? Is this another one of his bluffs?
I say send CAP over to his place and find out once and for all! I dont know if thats the wisest of ideas but I think the follow on story would be fuckin hilarious!
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|  re: Hatemeister part deux: Will the real Steve stand up? (karma: 2)
en>fr fr>en By diefrog
Comments: 5391, member since Wed Mar 12, 2003
On Fri Apr 28, 2006 08:57 PM
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Anyone else notice this guy doesn't understand that there are different people here? He seems to think that everyone posting here is somehow shon. Could that be because all the posts on his little webpage are him with different pseudonyms? Tht would explain how everything posted there has to go through him, so he can have total control over what his bots are saying.
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|  re: Hatemeister part deux: Will the real Steve stand up? (karma: 2)
en>fr fr>en By BurnParis
Comments: 18507, member since Thu Mar 13, 2003
On Fri Apr 28, 2006 09:05 PM
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I think you should be
aware that you may have committed one or more serious
crimes in publishing this information and tacitly
encouraging your members to harass Mr. Graham and his
associates.
Hmmm,... last time I checked, Identity theft was a far worse crime then harassing e-mails. Being that this DICKHEAD just confessed to a crime of identity theft, I think we should all E-mail Mr. Graham and his associates to inform them that they should pursue legal actions against this moron for the crime of identity theft.
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|  re: Hatemeister part deux: Will the real Steve stand up? (karma: 4)
en>fr fr>en By Tiberius
Comments: 5824, member since Tue Feb 11, 2003
On Fri Apr 28, 2006 09:07 PM
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For not knowing this Steve Graham, the Hatemeister sure knows a lot about him.
A blast from the past.....
It's an asymmetrical situation. The worst thing they can do to me is a DDOS attack, which amounts to nothing. But a couple of news organizations with his name and address could make him wish he had never been born.
Be a dumbass, go down like a dumbass. That's the rule. Wonder if I finally got their attention.
www.hogonice.com . . .
Amazing the difference 48 hours makes. doesn't it?
I posted this on that thread...think he'll approve it?
"Be a dumbass, go down like a dumbass. That's the rule. Wonder if I finally got their attention."
You certainly did...but if you keep singing small like you've been doing these past few hours they might lose interest in you, if you're lucky 
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|  re: Hatemeister part deux: Will the real Steve stand up? (karma: 2)
en>fr fr>en By BurnParis
Comments: 18507, member since Thu Mar 13, 2003
On Fri Apr 28, 2006 09:13 PM
Edited by BurnParis (59538) on 2006-04-28 21:14:54
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SteveH: I really am a lawyer. No one seems to believe that.
God that's just embarrassing. The reason people don't seem to believe you're a lawyer is because you're a fucking pathetic DUMB-ASS
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|  re: Hatemeister part deux: Will the real Steve stand up? (karma: 1)
en>fr fr>en By usmc4ever
Comments: 718, member since Fri Dec 10, 2004
On Fri Apr 28, 2006 09:20 PM
Edited by usmc4ever (75705) on 2006-04-28 21:23:50
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Have a question? Maybe someone could point me in the right direction on this.
Stevie has a golden oppurtunity, lemme explain.
We have been, not me, but some FF'rs been spammin this guys workplace? So, if we are bothering the wrong guy, published his "personal info", and commited multiple crimes, then why doesnt Stevie sit back and watch the show? Hell all of us would watch the asshole go down if the tables were turned!
I smell a rat in his story, we could have gotten the wrong guy, but as much as a drama queen this guy is it would only bring more attention to himself. This guy is a amateur bullshit artist, and a shitty lawyer let alone oppurtunist.
Prolly, HOPEFULLY, this time next week he will be in the unemployment line.
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|  re: Hatemeister part deux: Will the real Steve stand up? (karma: 6)
en>fr fr>en By jerrylewissux
Comments: 16889, member since Sun Mar 09, 2003
On Fri Apr 28, 2006 09:25 PM
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Let's see if I understand this correctly.
SteveH, aka Hatemeister, who just yesterday was on a jihad to see your website shut down and you in shackles, now has your best interests at heart?
And this change of heart is due to someone sending him an email contributing his unprofessional behavior to another lawyer named Steve Graham who might get pissed at you because someone sent SteveH an email.
And the email addresses that SteveH is worrying about receiving this information are bogus and therefore unable to to get the information SteveH is so worried about them seeing?
And, to top it all off, the person that sent this email, monkey@mppalaw.com, has the same email domain and the some of the people that he sent it too. Yet tests show that monkey@mppalaw.com isn't a real email address therefore couldn't have sent the email to the other bogus email addresses in the first place.
No wonder prophet took a liking to this guy.
This "lawyer" and experienced computer blogger just got punked by a fake email header.
You can't make this shit up.
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|  re: Hatemeister part deux: Will the real Steve stand up?
en>fr fr>en By CaptnMorgan
Comments: 20601, member since Mon Jun 09, 2003
On Fri Apr 28, 2006 09:28 PM
Edited by CaptnMorgan (66685) on 2006-04-28 21:32:02
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Stevie boy is slouching toward Dhimminess...
(Aaron is OK, but pale beside Fuck france and it's bashing
of all the goddam petits français lécheurs
de cul arabe.)
told Aaron last night that I thought he should let someone else be the point man for a while. And while it's nice of Mrs. Malkin to link to him and support his work, I think it would be wiser to suggest that he stop carrying so much of the burden. He has a family to think of, and Internet anonymity is not a secure enough shield to protect them. And the things he has been doing to call attention to Muslim intolerance are much more provocative than what other bloggers are doing.
The shyster lawyer cowardly keep erasing HIS OWN COMMENTS!!!
Go back to his fruit fly Diva and here is his comment
that I cpopied and pasted there for all to see:
chezdiva.com . . .
#
Fuck France was for Steve Graham his own road to Damas…
They made him unwittingly convert away from conservatism
to a rabid liberal…listen to what he just typed:
hogonice.co . . .
conservatives are bigoted, hateful,
sister-buggering man-boys. I really didn’t
get it until today.
If waterheads like that ever get any power,
I’ll sit next to Alec Baldwin on his flight
to France and be grateful for the ticket.
Comment by Henry Percy — April 25, 2006 @ 8:34 pm
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en>fr fr>en By SpikeCohen 
Comments: 9044, member since Wed Mar 19, 2003
On Fri Apr 28, 2006 09:32 PM
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Captain, is your name Henry?
And is it pronounced "henry" or "aaahnreeee"?
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|  re: Hatemeister part deux: Will the real Steve stand up? (karma: 2)
en>fr fr>en By badab
Comments: 6220, member since Sun Apr 27, 2003
On Fri Apr 28, 2006 09:51 PM
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Be a dumbass, go down like a dumbass. That's the rule. Wonder if I finally got their attention.
thanks for pointing out the obvious,
forgot about that remark.
what a fucktard.
whos going down now?
gurgle, gurgle steveh..gurgle that mouthfull of ff cum.
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en>fr fr>en By CaptnMorgan
Comments: 20601, member since Mon Jun 09, 2003
On Fri Apr 28, 2006 09:52 PM
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Harry...
ap Hotspur...
Notobepestrdbypopinjays.com
Act I, Scene iii, of Henry IV, Part 1. Henry Percy--"Hotspur"--explains to King Henry that he sent no prisoners from the northern rebellion because he was offended by the "popingay" messenger who came and "demanded / My prisoners in your majesty's behalf":
My liege, I did deny no prisoners.
But I remember, when the fight was done,
When I was dry with rage and extreme toil,
Breathless and faint, leaning upon my sword,
Came there a certain lord, neat, and trimly dress'd,
Fresh as a bridegroom; and his chin new reap'd
Show'd like a stubble-land at harvest-home;
He was perfumed like a milliner;
And 'twixt his finger and his thumb he held
A pouncet-box, which ever and anon
He gave his nose and took't away again;
Who therewith angry, when it next came there,
Took it in snuff; and still he smiled and talk'd,
And as the soldiers bore dead bodies by,
He call'd them untaught knaves, unmannerly,
To bring a slovenly unhandsome corse
Betwixt the wind and his nobility.
With many holiday and lady terms
He question'd me; amongst the rest, demanded
My prisoners in your majesty's behalf.
I then, all smarting with my wounds being cold,
To be so pester'd with a popinjay,
Out of my grief and my impatience,
Answer'd neglectingly I know not what,
He should or he should not; for he made me mad
To see him shine so brisk and smell so sweet
And talk so like a waiting-gentlewoman
Of guns and drums and wounds,--God save the mark!--
And telling me the sovereign'st thing on earth
Was parmaceti for an inward bruise;
And that it was great pity, so it was,
This villanous salt-petre should be digg'd
Out of the bowels of the harmless earth,
Which many a good tall fellow had destroy'd
So cowardly; and but for these vile guns,
He would himself have been a soldie
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|  re: Hatemeister part deux: Will the real Steve stand up? (karma: 3)
en>fr fr>en By jerrylewissux
Comments: 16889, member since Sun Mar 09, 2003
On Fri Apr 28, 2006 10:00 PM
Edited by jerrylewissuxs (59052) on 2006-04-28 22:03:48 .
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The more that I think about it, the funnier this is.
I think you might be interested in the way Steven Graham has represented himself, and by proxy the fine firm of Mr Mathews and Mr Piazza and lawyers in general.
An example of his unprofessional behavior:
Sounds like a concerned citizen wanting to keep the untarnished reputation that lawyers have intact.
So the author of this email took it upon himself to notify someone about what he considered bad behavior.
Mmmmmm.... Why does this seem so familiar???
I'm notifying other copyright holders that that site is stealing their work.
I don't know what your beef with them is, but if you want to torture them, find five articles they've reprinted and notify the copyright holders.
There is absolutely nothing they can do to get even. Why? Because copyright infringement is against the law, and reporting it isn't.
I think I'll go report five or six more F___ France copyright infringements to the IP owners. I should be able to put that forum out of business singlehandedly in a month.
I am going to make a permanent hobby out of turning them in to the people they rip off. Ooh, they're BAD right now. But will they still be bad when their walls are papered with cease and desist letters from lawyers? We'll see.
www.hogonice.com . . .
So Stevie not only took it upon himself to report bad behavior, he encouraged other to do the same. It's their civic duty.
But when someone reports HIS bad behavior, it is a crime.
And we thought the french were hypocrits!
Also, there is NO post by shon encouraging any actions, unlike steve's many requests for his minions to maliciously try to harm this site.
Not the type of behavior that I would want associated with my firm or lawyers in general.
A PUBLIC apology to the owner of the website should be made.
This concerned citizen is correct, steve as much as admitted his behavior was terrible.
Stevie can dish it out, but he didn't expect he'd have to take it.
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|  re: Hatemeister part deux: Will the real Steve stand up? (karma: 1)
en>fr fr>en By RockoftheMarne
Comments: 15411, member since Fri Mar 21, 2003
On Fri Apr 28, 2006 10:02 PM
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LOL! what a dumbass. live by the internet, die by the internet.
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|  re: Hatemeister part deux: Will the real Steve stand up? (karma: 1)
en>fr fr>en By badab
Comments: 6220, member since Sun Apr 27, 2003
On Fri Apr 28, 2006 10:06 PM
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So Stevie not only took it upon himself to report bad behavior, he encouraged other to do the same. It's their civic duty.
But when someone reports HIS bad behavior, it is a crime.
And we thought the french were hypocrits!
wholly shit, one fucktard american lawer beat out all the frogs for the dumbshit award and he's from florida.
wheres cap.
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en>fr fr>en By i_break_4_camels
Comments: 11242, member since Thu Feb 13, 2003
On Fri Apr 28, 2006 10:08 PM
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If you really want to do this right, you would be wise to consult a criminal attorney in Colorado before even contacting Graham.
Hmmmmmm.... somehow we moved from the civil code to the criminal code.
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en>fr fr>en By CaptnMorgan
Comments: 20601, member since Mon Jun 09, 2003
On Fri Apr 28, 2006 10:14 PM
Edited by CaptnMorgan (66685) on 2006-04-28 22:16:13
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I, Harry dit "Hotspur" Percy, may have died at the battle of
Shrewberry, but my spirit lives on to raise opprobium
to POPINJAYS the like of Steve "Skating Porker" Graham...
Death of Hotspur (Sir Henry Percy)
The Battle of Shrewsbury,
fought on 21 July 1403 between an army led
by the Lancastrian King, Henry IV and a
rebel army led by members of the
Percy family from Northumberland
ended in victory for Henry. © Balean / TopFoto
images.google.com . . .
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en>fr fr>en By captainamerican
Comments: 12361, member since Sat Nov 05, 2005
On Fri Apr 28, 2006 10:19 PM
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Steve H (aka) Hatemeister eats shit!
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|  re: Hatemeister part deux: Will the real Steve stand up?
en>fr fr>en By AkuGuuSama
Comments: 6794, member since Sat Mar 29, 2003
On Fri Apr 28, 2006 10:21 PM
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Buttnugget wrote: But a couple of news organizations with his name and address could make him wish he had never been born.
Puh-leeze! fuckfrance has been the medias poster child internationally for many years now, once more into the breech will just increase our traffic and not his.
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en>fr fr>en By Bearfan
Comments: 7942, member since Wed Mar 12, 2003
On Fri Apr 28, 2006 10:23 PM
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What comes after deux? I can't wait!
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|  re: Hatemeister part deux: Will the real Steve stand up? (karma: 2)
en>fr fr>en By K2_AandM_Corps
Comments: 1569, member since Sun Jan 22, 2006
On Fri Apr 28, 2006 10:36 PM
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This ongoing drama with SteveH has me on the edge of my seat. If theres anything I love more then bashing socialists and euros, its destroying pompous self absorbed assholes.
Shon and JLS dont keep us in the dark! Updates! Its a violiation of my human rights to keep us in the dark when concerning the internet spanking SteveH is getting.
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