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Who is the real Steve Graham? Hatemeister part tres! (karma: 21)  en>fr fr>en
By shonPremium member Comments: 707, member since Thu Mar 11, 1999

On Sun Apr 30, 2006 11:18 AM

Once again, Steve Graham (RCOH) ascribes malice and criminal activity to Fuckfrance and its members without any basis in fact which I find insulting if not libelous.

www.fuckfrance.com . . .

Putting that aside for the moment, methinks RCOH doth protest too much.

"I am not Steven Graham." -RCOH

So let's review the evidence:

RCOH, who runs Hog On Ice, aka the "Hatemeister" is identified by himself and others on his blog and the Miami Herald as: Steve H. Graham, attorney.
www.miami.com . . .
www.babalublog.com
72.14.203.104 . . .

The 44-year-old Coral Gables attorney and writer is not married. And he's not seriously dating


A search of the Florida Bar reveals only one "Steve Graham":

www.floridabar.org . . .

A google map search reveals the distance between Boca Raton and Coral Gables as 51 miles (1 hour):

maps.google.com . . .

What to make of the apparent fact that there are two Steve Graham attorneys within 51 miles of each other? Coincidence?

If there truly are two Steve Graham attorneys within 51 miles of the other, why wouldn't the Hatemeister say "I'm not THAT Steve Graham?" Instead, he claims he is not "Steven Graham." Is this a case mirroring Clinton's famous line: "It depends on what the definition of 'is' is"? Does he really mean to say, he's not Steven Graham but might possibly be Steve Graham? This is pure conjecture on my part, but it reeks of legal sophistry.

But let's take what RCOH says at face value. Then, the question I'd like to know is why the Hatemeister is not listed in the Florida bar if he is an attorney as he and others claim?

If he's not an attorney or is using yet another pseudonym (ie., his real name isn't Steve Graham), the "real" Steve Graham could take the Hatemeister to court for a host of charges not the least of which is identity theft. If I were an attorney, I sure as hell wouldn't want my name tarnished by the "Hatemeister", "Jeff Dahmer", or the "Oprah of Hate." Imagine being a lawyer and getting reported to the bar for the actions of someone calling himself the "Hatemeister" and using your name. Yeah, I'd be pretty pissed.

If he is an attorney (and not the other), why don't we see two listings in the Florida Bar?

Of course, the simplest explanation is usually the truth: That the Hatemeister really is Steve Graham, attorney in question. If this is true, then he faces severe problems as someone reported his behavior to the bar and firm.

Things don't look rosy for the Hatemeister no matter how you slice it. If the FBI comes knocking, I have no problems since everything is out in the open. Can the Hatemeister say the same?

This charade has gone on long enough. If the Hatemeister won't own up to the facts, I will investigate and find the truth myself. So before you dig yourself a bigger hole, RCOH aka Steve Graham, I suggest you apologize to the members of Fuckfrance and set the record straight. Those criminal charges are aimed in your direction, not mine.

Note to mods: it is no secret that he claims to be Steve H. Graham, so for the sake of completeness, let's not bother editing out that name. RCOH himself published that name on his blog and used it as a title for a thread here.

Shon
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re: Who is the real Steve Graham? Hatemeister part tres!  en>fr fr>en
By DutchHateFrogs2 Comments: 9332, member since Thu Mar 24, 2005
On Sun Apr 30, 2006 11:23 AM
Edited by DutchHateFrogs2 (76526) on 2006-04-30 12:08:23

I am convince that the word "lawyer" is a derivative of the word "liar".
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re: Who is the real Steve Graham? Hatemeister part tres!  en>fr fr>en
By BlitzGaulAgain Comments: 13316, member since Fri Sep 09, 2005
On Sun Apr 30, 2006 11:47 AM
Edited by BlitzGaulAgain (77989) on 2006-04-30 11:52:05 That probably violated something.

www.miami.com . . .

Patio chairs and a couple of bar stools complete the actual furniture. Just a few feet away, two fishing rods are propped up on tree stumps, their lures bobbing gently in the water.

And just when you think ManCamp can't get any cooler, there's...


Hog on Ice!! ROFL! "Throw back some brewskis dooods!!"

Wow. .. And I though that Prescott owned Steve...
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re: Who is the real Steve Graham? Hatemeister part tres!  en>fr fr>en
By GoWestYoungManmember has saluted, click to view salute photos Comments: 6154, member since Sat Oct 16, 2004
On Sun Apr 30, 2006 11:51 AM

Shon,

"Steve" is short for other names than "Steven", as you know.

I don't think that this HOI guy is practicing law at the moment, but is a member in good standing in some bar, maybe not FL, though. From his blog, you know that he keeps up his legal ability to practice law, although he claims that he isn't now.

Perhaps a search of property tax rolls in Coral Gables would be more fruitful?

Nevermind, the guy shouldn't be harrassed.
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re: Who is the real Steve Graham? Hatemeister part tres!  en>fr fr>en
By badab Comments: 6205, member since Sun Apr 27, 2003
On Sun Apr 30, 2006 11:57 AM

clue me in on how the prophet is involved in this, I missed that.
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re: Who is the real Steve Graham? Hatemeister part tres! (karma: 2)  en>fr fr>en
By Prescottmember has saluted, click to view salute photos Comments: 11279, member since Thu Feb 13, 2003
On Sun Apr 30, 2006 12:01 PM

Oh damn and I've been changing "Steve Graham" to "Robert Klingon" for what seems like all day now. I just hope there is no lawyer named Robert Klingon living in Boca Raton.

So it's fire at will now boss?
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re: Who is the real Steve Graham? Hatemeister part tres! (karma: 7)  en>fr fr>en
By shonPremium member Comments: 707, member since Thu Mar 11, 1999
On Sun Apr 30, 2006 12:02 PM

To my knowledge, no one has harassed him. From the email he sent me, it appears someone reported his behavior to the Florida bar and the firm where presumably the other Steve Graham works.

If he isn't that Steve Graham, then when that other Steve Graham comes knocking, he won't be messing around with this "hobby" news and forum site, but with the author and writer (and presumably attorney with bigger pockets) who should have known better--and who tarnished the name of "Steve Graham" with his unprofessionalism.

I wish no ill of RCOH/Hatemeister, but whatever happens is the result of his actions, not mine. That's why I recommend he apologize in full to the members of FF here and on his blog, own up to the facts, and hope for the best. But since he's a lawyer, I don't have high hopes.

Shon
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re: Who is the real Steve Graham? Hatemeister part tres!  en>fr fr>en
By DutchHateFrogs2 Comments: 9332, member since Thu Mar 24, 2005
On Sun Apr 30, 2006 12:03 PM

He deserves it for writing f--k france on his site. Fuckity fuck fuck fuck (-Cartman). How fucking lame.
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re: Who is the real Steve Graham? Hatemeister part tres! (karma: 5)  en>fr fr>en
By badab Comments: 6205, member since Sun Apr 27, 2003
On Sun Apr 30, 2006 12:08 PM

oh looky looky.

Steve, Im an ex memeber/MOD of fuckfrance.com I have names, addreses and phone nombers of MODS. You can reach me on yahoo messenger my nic there is RIA_SAH or my email riasah@yahoo.com or riasah@hotmail.com

www.hogonice.com . . .
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re: Who is the real Steve Graham? Hatemeister part tres!  en>fr fr>en
By DutchHateFrogs2 Comments: 9332, member since Thu Mar 24, 2005
On Sun Apr 30, 2006 12:10 PM

That fucking bitch!
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re: Who is the real Steve Graham? Hatemeister part tres! (karma: 1)  en>fr fr>en
By AkuGuuSama Comments: 6774, member since Sat Mar 29, 2003
On Sun Apr 30, 2006 12:12 PM

oh looky looky.


Now, that I believe is inciting a criminal act.
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By poupon_le_french Comments: 16009, member since Thu Jul 24, 2003
On Sun Apr 30, 2006 12:12 PM

I just saw "Riasahs" post.

She can spell. It isn't her.
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re: Who is the real Steve Graham? Hatemeister part tres!  en>fr fr>en
By badab Comments: 6205, member since Sun Apr 27, 2003
On Sun Apr 30, 2006 12:14 PM

oh looky looky.


Now, that I believe is inciting a criminal act.


you have the choice to look or not to look.

dont be a tool or people might mistake you for steveH.

lol K
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re: Who is the real Steve Graham? Hatemeister part tres! (karma: 2)  en>fr fr>en
By Prescottmember has saluted, click to view salute photos Comments: 11279, member since Thu Feb 13, 2003
On Sun Apr 30, 2006 12:14 PM

She can spell. It isn't her.
We all know who it is. It also answer's badab's question.
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re: Who is the real Steve Graham? Hatemeister part tres!  en>fr fr>en
By GBush Comments: 17284, member since Wed Feb 26, 2003
On Sun Apr 30, 2006 12:52 PM

And just HOW would steve from hell even KNOW about Ria???? :?

Unless he has had a "mole" all along. :(
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re: Who is the real Steve Graham? Hatemeister part tres! (karma: 3)  en>fr fr>en
By Prescottmember has saluted, click to view salute photos Comments: 11279, member since Thu Feb 13, 2003
On Sun Apr 30, 2006 01:01 PM

oh looky looky.
====
Steve, Im an ex memeber/MOD of fuckfrance.com I have names, addreses and phone nombers of MODS. You can reach me on yahoo messenger my nic there is RIA_SAH or my email riasah@yahoo.com or riasah@hotmail.com
He he, free speech at work on hogonlies (look at the date/time stamps; you'll also notice from the ads which country I am in today -- fact-finding mission ;) ):

Part 1
Image hotlink - 'http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/2613/hogria18007du.jpg'


Part 2
Image hotlink - 'http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/6035/hogria28001vp.jpg'


Part 3
Image hotlink - 'http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/4118/hogria38000um.jpg'


Part 4
Image hotlink - 'http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/2593/hogria48002zd.jpg'


Way to go, Steve H(ogonlying) Graham. Your intellectual honestly greatly contributes to the quality of your hogblog.
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By Tiberius Comments: 5824, member since Tue Feb 11, 2003
On Sun Apr 30, 2006 01:14 PM

And just HOW would steve from hell even KNOW about Ria???? :?

Unless he has had a "mole" all along.


I'm sure prophet told him about her to worm his way into steve-o's good graces...maybe prophet posted that himself. I wonder how long it will take prophet to get steve-o to open up to him so he can get the info he needs to backstab him. ;)
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By BlitzGaulAgain Comments: 13316, member since Fri Sep 09, 2005
On Sun Apr 30, 2006 01:18 PM

The Hog on ice is so desperate to save face that I wonder if he's an arab.
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By starspangled Comments: 19024, member since Sat Dec 27, 2003
On Sun Apr 30, 2006 01:31 PM

prophet to get steve-o to open up to him so he can get the info he needs to backstab him.

prophet was one of the more unique species in ff's biosphere. Live and learn.
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re: Who is the real Steve Graham? Hatemeister part tres! (karma: 4)  en>fr fr>en
By G3S3B Comments: 22099, member since Sun Oct 31, 2004
On Sun Apr 30, 2006 01:32 PM
Edited by G3S3B (75240) on 2006-04-30 13:32:50

Steve, Im an ex memeber/MOD of fuckfrance.com I have names, addreses and phone nombers of MODS. You can reach me on yahoo messenger my nic there is RIA_SAH or my email riasah@yahoo.com or riasah@hotmail.com - badab

Please don't blame Riasah.
The Riasah post on the Hatemeister's website "Hog On Ice" is from our Prophet.

Prophet still has not discovered how to press the spell check button on his toolbar.

Image hotlink - 'http://www.fuckfrance.com/images/i249/12994.380prophets_neighborhoo.jpg'
Prophet
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re: Who is the real Steve Graham? Hatemeister part tres!  en>fr fr>en
By MadRusski Comments: 22827, member since Mon Aug 16, 2004
On Sun Apr 30, 2006 01:37 PM

That fucking bitch!


I always miss these things. WTF's up with her?!
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By Tiberius Comments: 5824, member since Tue Feb 11, 2003
On Sun Apr 30, 2006 01:41 PM

I always miss these things. WTF's up with her?!


False alarm...prophet is posting at steve-o's site pretending to be her.
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re: Who is the real Steve Graham? Hatemeister part tres! (karma: 1)  en>fr fr>en
By MadRusski Comments: 22827, member since Mon Aug 16, 2004
On Sun Apr 30, 2006 01:49 PM

And..we know it is Prophet and not somebody impersonating him? Honestly, to take these Internet fights seriously one has to be totally fuicked up with no life.
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By AkuGuuSama Comments: 6774, member since Sat Mar 29, 2003
On Sun Apr 30, 2006 01:58 PM
Edited by AkuGuuSama (61276) on 2006-04-30 14:20:54

And..we know it is Prophet and not somebody impersonating him?


Prophetese has been listed as an endangered cultural resource due to the fact that only one known person actually speaks, reads, or writes it.


Can you guess who it is?

Prophetese has so far eluded the best efforts of translators.
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re: Who is the real Steve Graham? Hatemeister part tres! (karma: 1)  en>fr fr>en
By Sharp Comments: 12768, member since Fri Apr 23, 2004
On Sun Apr 30, 2006 02:00 PM

MadRuskie, these internet fights can spill out into real life. A family on the east coast was killed by Islamofascists because of an internet fight. Steve H if he is indeed a practicing attorney could lose his license over this fight and I hope he does. No attorney should be able to start a legal proceding with Hey Asshole. That is far below minimal standards of professionalism.
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re: Who is the real Steve Graham? Hatemeister part tres! (karma: 2)  en>fr fr>en
By tozer Comments: 8704, member since Wed Nov 19, 2003
On Sun Apr 30, 2006 02:08 PM

last thing ria gives a damn about is this story, i'm sure she doesn't even know about it and if she does, doesn't care.
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