Please explain why you made your answer.

Where is the:

No..but I'll take them over the democunts option?

They are the cream of the crop. Of course, after Bush, the bar is so low that most small furry animals and several inanimate objects also look great.

Where is the:

I don't give a fuck about your motherfucking poll option

No, they aren't good candidates.

I won't vote for anti-gun or pro-illegal/muslim dipshits.

What kind of explanation are you looking for?
They're the same pile of crap, wrapped in different colored paper.

Who cares ? It's the democrat's turn.

In eight years, Jeb Bush will run when the dems will be too tired to fight.

A bunch of lily livered, mealy mouthed, watered down, milk toast, compassionate conservative politicians. Worthless at this time in our country. We need someone with a backbone not a bunch of double speak pussies.

Romney at least says he'll do something about the wetbacks and securing the border. What he says and what he does, if elected, could be two entirely different things as we've learned with senor dipshit in the whitehouse.

Democrats dislike Governor Mitt Romney which makes him a better than average candidate.



Governor Mitt Romney

I am reminded of the Simpsons episode where Homer loses the employee of the month competition to an inanimate carbon rod.

We need a nationalist president at this critical juncture in our history. The people want one too, but we came up empty. The people wanted a border fence, but politicians on both sides are unresponsive. Both parties are doing everything to undermine the security of the country. I would be happy, if the crop of candidates was running for election in an enemy country. Rudy Giuliani is the best candidate left in the race with both a strong desire to protect the country and management experience in an executive office.

As long as Dr. Paul is still in the race, I'm happy.

im fuckin' thrilled!

Obviously as a Fredneck(Fredhead), I am not a happy camper. The results have shown me that as usual, the electorate is more concerned with the packaging, than the product.

With such a high % of Americans supporting overt Marxist/Communists on the left, what should we have expected?

Gay_Yahoo wrote:
Obviously as a Fredneck

you mean a Dickhead

Kava is a penis...


I hate them all, and Im tired of voting for the lesser of two evils...

and Im tired of the fact that our current crop of repukes know it and exploit us with the old...

"what choice do you have? its me or the socialist"

kava_kava wrote:

Gay_Yahoo wrote:
Obviously as a Fredneck

you mean a Dickhead

Learn that one at recess today?

We're quite happy, thank you.

You have a real conservative choice, cafedumerde. And his name is Dr. Ron Paul.

pin-head wrote:
Kava has a large penis...

tell your mom i said hi.

Learn that one at recess today?

That would imply some sort of "formal education" which kaka does not possess.


I am not happy with any major candidate. I would like to see Duncan Hunter win but frogs will bathe more than once a year before that happens.

RockoftheMarne wrote:

You have a real conservative choice, cafedumerde. And his name is Dr. Ron Paul.

I am a pragmatist Rock, He cannot win... Or I would support him.
A vote for him is like my 1992 Vote...

Wasted and 8 years of Bill Clinton

I learned my lesson then. In politics you cannot afford to be an idealist...

dum-dum wrote:
I would like to blow Duncan Hunter, and I'll try to bathe more than once a year so my pooper is nice and shiny for him.

don't forget to floss

Here's a good essay I found on the Aspen Times site via the Gates of Vienna blog:
Aspen Times link: www.aspentimes.com . . .

Gates of Vienna link:
gatesofvienna.blogspot.com . . .

“Illegal immigration Akin to Enron Fraud”


America once faced a problem with systematic fraud in the financial markets which lead to scandals such as Enron. The premise is simple, by misreporting their performance, these companies gained an illegal and unfair advantage over competitors. By misreporting their numbers, their cost of borrowing money was far lower, and they didn’t have to work to actually make a “profit.” Ultimately, society - that’s you - paid $50 billion when this fraud was uncovered.

Illegal immigrant employment is fraud by another name - and costs far more. Both the illegal immigrant, and the individuals employing them, attempt to gain an unfair advantage by creating an illegal advantage over competitors. Ultimately you pay, as more wealth is unfairly transferred to the illegal employer and more bills are given to you by the illegal immigrant. An extrapolation of the Rice University Huddle Study of 1996 to 2006 yields a net economic impact of minus $70 billion, nearly all of that borne by low-income households. Mexico alone receives nearly $20 Billion per year in remittances - that’s cash leaving the U.S. economy. For those who question the net impact of illegal’s work - after all they are working - one might also ask whether Enron was a net positive, for was it not also working? The reality is that white collar fraud and illegal employment are not victimless crimes, and also further affect business and employment by creating illegal competition.

In the case of the illegal immigrant, he/she is here in America, working and enjoying the relatively good life, while a would-be legal immigrant is spending years in their home country filing paperwork, educating themselves, learning English, and earning money to show Uncle Sam that they can and will take care of themselves in America. Is it easy for someone in a third world country to raise the funds? No. However, adapting to America won’t be easy either, so this hard work in the home country effectively becomes part of the selection process.

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Illegal immigration also unfairly competes against another part of the selection process: sponsoring. If the legal immigrant is sponsored (and many are), a relative in America with at least two years of full residency is working hard to show that they have approximately $12,000 for short term support costs, and the stability to cover any and all welfare given to the immigrant for a period of 10 years. Ten years? That’s right, Uncle Sam bills the sponsor for any unpaid hospital bills, welfare, public defender costs, and any “public aid” given to the immigrant for 10 years. Sponsoring offers a far more effective screening and assimilation process than government could ever provide. Think of immigration sponsoring as having a co-signer on a loan, and you are the bank.

The employer of illegal immigrants has a similar illegal advantage over his/her competitors in that the illegal immigrant has none of the above immigration costs and therefore can work for lower wages - no sponsor, no co-signer. The employer of illegal immigrants has not had to work for his/her money by finding good workers to manage, being innovative on products or services, or worked hard to find good customers. Rather he/she has only had to violate the law to ensure personal profits, just like Enron. The employer of illegal immigrants is no different than a factory that fires all American workers and sends it work overseas. However, as construction and mowing a lawn can’t really be “offshored,” the only “solution” is to bring the low wage of a third world country here. At least the offshoring T-shirt factory doesn’t stick you with the inflated hospital bills of the workers.

So is there a solution that’s immediate and relatively painless? Sure. In the wake of Enron, the Sarbanes-Oxley act required all financial reports to be signed by the CEO or CFO of the company. If there was a fraud, the person signing the report was criminally liable. As white collar guys don’t like to be lead away in handcuffs, the companies cleaned themselves up.

It would be simple to make similar change in illegal immigrant employment. Currently, there exists a Federal Pilot system for checking social security numbers. We need only enforce the provision that if social security numbers aren’t cleared by an employer using the Federal Pilot system, the ICE team arrests the owner of the company. While an illegal immigrant might not be too put out by spending a few days in the clink and appearing before a judge, I’m willing to bet that more than a few owners might not like the social stigma and discomfort of shuffling around in chains. Of course, any owners that wouldn’t mind the stigma are probably unscrupulous in other ways, so people would soon rightly identify the employer of illegal immigrants as an unsound business partner.

Currently, this is unlikely to happen. In the last 12 months, ICE reports only 91 arrests in the “employer supervisor chain.”

Illegal immigration is not a human rights issue. It’s not victimless. It is simply fraud. The debate only exists because both parties really want class warfare: Republicans want cheap workers that will work for them, while Democrats want poor workers that will vote for them. While politicians exploit this, the workers of America pay the bill.

GWYM here: It is appalling that somehow a huge (10 million!) community is living in America illegally and that we are somehow supposed to accept this in a nation that is great because of the RULE OF LAW. The Repubs need to get the stick and deal with this issue.

kava_kava wrote:

dum-dum wrote:
I would like to blow Duncan Hunter, and I'll try to bathe more than once a year so my pooper is nice and shiny for him.

don't forget to floss

That's really hilarious kaka, did one of your good friends from the glory hole teach you that?