Ihatehippies wrote:

I did 50-60 miles worth of route clearance missions a day in a Stryker.

Are you one of these supreme guys ?

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If I tried to do that in a M113 I'd probably throw a track once week.

How many tires does a Stryker burn per day ? Reports from Iraq suggest between 8 and 13. And it takes just as long to change a single Stryker-wheel as it takes to change an entire Gavin steel-track. Btw, said track weighs as much as two Stryker wheels - and the Stryker got 8 of 'em.

In terms of survivablility anything that can take out a Stryker (large burried IEDs, EFPs) will take out an M113.

Wrong - see the armour picture above: You can perforate a Stryker hull with a standard issue 7,62mm rifle, aiming between the wheels. And of course you need even less to immobilize it - "thanks" to the rubber tires. Throw a molotov cocktail at it, done. Or a couple of 5,56mm rounds also suffice. Or a damn knife, whatever.

And who the fuck calls them "Gavins"? I have never heard that word come out of the mouth of a sapper.

I and many other people who want to give General Gavin his due credit for giving us this great tank.





It would be funny if it wasn't so tragic:

4-million-dollar Stryker unable to break thru a fucking courtyard-door in Iraq:

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