Why bad boy Bond will always get the girl

It is something most nice guys have learned by bitter experience - bad boys tend to get the girls.

Now scientists have shown it really does pay to have a mean streak - with callous, self-obsessed, deceitful men proving the biggest hit with the ladies.

Extensive studies show that women the world over find it hard to resist a cad.

The secret of his appeal, it seems, lies in three nasty personality traits said to be epitomised in James Bond.
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Licensed to thrill: Now scientists have revealed that women find it hard to resist callous, self-obsessed and deceitful men

The so-called 'dark triad' combines the self-obsession of narcissism, the impulsive, thrill-seeking and callous behaviour of the psychopath and the deceitful and exploitative nature of Machiavellianism.

Unattractive as the combination might appear, women often equate it with masculinity - and the ability to father healthy children.

As a result, those looking for the thrill of an affair, or hoping to become pregnant, are drawn to 'bad boys'.

The men, in return, raise their chances of passing their genes on to the next generation.

Scientist Peter Jonason said James Bond is the perfect example of a ladykiller with a rather questionable personality.

'He's clearly disagreeable, very extroverted and likes trying new things - killing people, new women,' the researcher told New Scientist.
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Ladykiller: Bond is a perfect example of a ladykiller with a questionable personality

Mr Jonason, of New Mexico State University in the U.S., subjected 200 college students to personality tests designed to rank them for each of their dark triad traits.

They were also asked about their attitudes to sexual relationships and about their sex lives, including how many partners they had and whether they sought out flings.

The results showed that men who scored higher on the trio of traits tended to have more partners and more interest in short-term relationships.

A second U.S. study of 35,000 people in 57 countries also found a clear link between the dark triad traits in men and success with women.

Researcher Professor David Schmitt, of Bradley University in Illinois, said: 'It's universal across cultures for high dark triad scorers to be more active in short-term mating. They are more likely to try and poach other people's partners for a brief affair.'

The researchers said that at their most extreme, the traits would be highly unattractive, leading to men being shut off from society.

But one possibility is that the strategy is most successful when dark triad personalities are rare.

Otherwise others would become more wary and guarded and the strategy would backfire.

In any case, nice guys need not lose all hope. Dr Gayle Brewer, an evolutionary psychologist at the University of Central Lancashire, said that while women tend to like cads for flings, they usually settle down with more caring types.


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I always thought women were drawn to this type of man because females are fundamentally insecure beings?

- Judy, London, 19/6/2008 08:51

"In any case, nice guys need not lose all hope. Dr Gayle Brewer, an evolutionary psychologist at the University of Central Lancashire, said that while women tend to like cads for flings, they usually settle down with more caring types."

Yes that's only to be expected, when they've given the best years of their bodies to utter morons and end up thirty something on the pile and can't pull anymore. Then they look for some sucker to take care of them for the next forty years. Nice men take note.

- AJP, UK, 19/6/2008 08:48

"Callous, self-obsessed (and) deceitful" men just devote more of their resources to the chase and are less bothered by the consequences. Then the women give birth to "callous, self-obsessed (and) deceitful" sons who go on in their turn to do the same. As long as "callous, self-obsessed (and) deceitful" men enjoy reproductive success then sensitive, self-obsessed and guileless women will continue to give birth to their babies.What women really seek is a callous, self-obsessed, deceitful monsters as the biological fathers for their kids and "more caring types" to help them rear them.

- Roger Darce, London, UK, 19/6/2008 07:59
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Ask a women what she hates most about men and you'll get a laundry list of everything she finds irresistible in a man.

The last time I heard that theory of the "perfect genetical father" it was from a lesbian friend a few months ago.

Amazing ?

"Yes that's only to be expected, when they've given the best years of their bodies to utter morons and end up thirty something on the pile and can't pull anymore. Then they look for some sucker to take care of them for the next forty years. Nice men take note."

Nail meets hammer.

Chivalry is for suckers.

suvrata wrote:


"In any case, nice guys need not lose all hope. Dr Gayle Brewer, an evolutionary psychologist at the University of Central Lancashire, said that while women tend to like cads for flings, they usually settle down with more caring types."

Did you read well?

This thread reminds me that episode of Seinfeld where George plays the bad boy,

ibigmang wrote:

Chivalry is for suckers.

What? Noooo...

Sorry, Feather. But it's true in most cases. The knight on a white horse is a fool. He rides in to save the damsel but she has more fun with the villain. She won't admit it because it's not ladylike, but the villain knows.

I figure....."Fuck 'Em"

and as often as possible.

Why are the women who fall for these callous, self obsessed deceitful men being demonized more than the men themselves? Seems to me that the men who use these women are just as bad if not worse than the women.

It takes a cold hearted bastard to use a women with low self esteem and then move on to the next willing victim. I know a man who in his younger years could charm the ladies right out of their panties, leaving them broken hearted after he was done. This same man married a few years ago and now karma has come around to bite him in the ass. His wife is a callous, self obsessed spoiled bitch....and he now puts up with what he used to inflict on others.

P.S.....not all women allow themselves to be used by men like these.

why blame women for it? Partly....because that's what they want. Therefore...as any good economist could tell you, when something is more highly valued you get more of it.

Most guys learn pretty quickly that it doesn't pay to be Mr. Sensitive Ponytail. Oh understand....she likes Mr. Sensitive Ponytail. She'll be more than happy to use him as an emotional pit stop everytime she gets crushed by the vary cads she invariably goes for. She'll spill her guts, whine, cry and force him to listen to yet another sob story. She'll bitch and whine about how "all men suck". Then what will she do? Will she finally wise up and realize that the only reason Mr. Sensitive Ponytail is putting up with all this bullshit is because he likes her and is showing her that he would treat her well? Of course not! She just moves along to the next jackass.

It doesn't take long for every guy to realize that he doesn't want to be Mr. Sensitive Ponytail and that its time to start deliberately acting like a dick sometimes, that is if he ever wants to get laid....

You people act as if the men are never at fucking fault! Women know what men are after and they know they are going to be used....so why are women held accountable when they act just as the men do? Fucking hypocrites!

Of course men are at fault! Why? Because that what women want! Oh its not what they say they want.....but their actions tell an entirely different story. Don't think for a nanosecond this doesn't get noticed. Guys learn early on that if they're too nice to women, women will use the dreaded "F" word on them (friends). That's the kiss of death.

If women really want guys to start being nicer then they need to start fucking nice guys instead of jerks.

Meechie92 wrote:

Why are the women who fall for these callous, self obsessed deceitful men being demonized more than the men themselves?

ahhhh, because they're STUPID as SHIT or WANT to be "used".

Seems to me that the men who use these women are just as bad if not worse than the women.

Sooooo, you're a dyke then or just a women's lib wench in a jockstrap?

Meechie92 wrote:

You people act as if the men are never at fucking fault! Women know what men are after and they know they are going to be used.

Because not every guy is a shithead who will use women. But the vast majority of women ignore the nice guys and gravitate to the pricks. Then they bitch about being used by men. If they'd pick better guys they wouldn't end up used.

If women really want guys to start being nicer then they need to start fucking nice guys instead of jerks.

I agree whole-heartedly. But until that happens, nice guys finish last.

Guys do what works. Being sensitive and caring doesn't get you laid. It gets you stuck in the dreaded "friend zone".

Of course men are at fault! Why? Because that what women want! Oh its not what they say they want.....but their actions tell an entirely different story. Don't think for a nanosecond this doesn't get noticed. Guys learn early on that if they're too nice to women, women will use the dreaded "F" word on them (friends). That's the kiss of death.

See...and here I thought you guys were more fucking afraid of the the dreaded "L" word...LOVE!

If women really want guys to start being nicer then they need to start fucking nice guys instead of jerks.

I do...and quit fucking painting us all as money grubbing sluts.

I learned to stop judging women for female personality characteristics a long time ago. Each sex has its "flaws." They're pre-programmed into all of us by millions of years of evolution. Its not going to change, so I might as well just accept it.

As Sam Kinison said....."but I love women.....I have to. Its either love women or suck a big dick. Thanks God. Thanks for the big menu down here......."

Sooooo, you're a dyke then or just a women's lib wench in a jockstrap?

No...I'm heterosexual and married to a nice guy. I avoided your type all of my life...hateful pricks, pissed off at the world cause something somewhere didn't go your way. Take that huge chip off your shoulders you fucking whacked out douchebag and maybe nice girls would gravitate in your direction.

Unattractive as the combination might appear, women often equate it with masculinity

You mean being a total pussy doesn't attract women?

From my profile;

A woman who succeeds in taming your wild nature, will then become bored with how dull you are. Don't change, ever.

Because not every guy is a shithead who will use women.

I agree.

But the vast majority of women ignore the nice guys and gravitate to the pricks.

Oh I see now. Not all guys are shitheads who won't use women but the majority of us women ignore the nice guys and gravitate towards the pricks. Trust me when I say this...I'd gravitate towards you and ignore a prick like GBush in a heartbeat. Pigs like him deserve a bitch to treat him like the dog he is.

Then they bitch about being used by men. If they'd pick better guys they wouldn't end up used.

And if guys used the head on their shoulder instead of the one between their legs more often, you wouldn't be gravitating towards bitches.

Meechie92 wrote:

And if guys used the head on their shoulder instead of the one between their legs more often, you wouldn't be gravitating towards bitches.

You need to learn to accept our inherent limitations.

Meechie92 wrote:

Of course men are at fault! Why? Because that what women want! Oh its not what they say they want.....but their actions tell an entirely different story. Don't think for a nanosecond this doesn't get noticed. Guys learn early on that if they're too nice to women, women will use the dreaded "F" word on them (friends). That's the kiss of death.

See...and here I thought you guys were more fucking afraid of the the dreaded "L" word...LOVE!

If women really want guys to start being nicer then they need to start fucking nice guys instead of jerks.

I do...and quit fucking painting us all as money grubbing sluts.

EASY! I know a couple of nice Guys, they're 40 single and still a virgin but hey there nice.

You need to learn to accept our inherent limitations.

I already do.

EASY! I know a couple of nice Guys, they're 40 single and still a virgin but hey there nice.

Perfect. I'll hook them up with the a couple of ladies I know who are 40 and over...single and real sweethearts.

I figure....."Fuck 'Em"

and as often as possible.

Yep...here's a perfect example of a "nice guy".

We've got bigger dicks. That clarifies it for you?