It is obvious all of that could not have been possible without the D day(allies forces)


The second Leclerc DB division composed of 16000 men faced 20000 germans in the outskirts of the capital plus a garrison of 5000 men inside Paris. (see the picture above)


Parisians being aware of the advance of the allies forces in the west of France started a general uprising leaded by Henri Rol-Tanguy.


The battle took place from 19 August 1944 up to 25 August.

www.youtube.com . . .

sorry about the manhattan skyline...

The real story is that French cowards emerged from sewers after most of the Germans left. The French are so desperate to erase some portion of their well deserved history of cowardice, that they consider a German withdraw as a victory. The real hero of the liberation of Paris was the German General in charge of Paris who disobeyed Hitler's orders to destroy the city. The French again owe their German master a great debt of gratitude for allowing them to live.

German General Dietrich von Choltitz, the commander of the Paris garrison and military governor of Paris surrendered, on 25 August, at the Hotel Meurice, newly established headquarters of General Leclerc. Von Choltitz was kept prisoner until April 1947. In his memoir ... Brennt Paris? ("Is Paris Burning?"), first published in 1950, von Choltitz describes himself as the saviour of Paris.

According to a 2004 interview his son Timo gave to the French public channel France 2, von Choltitz's father disobeyed Hitler and personally allowed the Allies to take the city back safely and rapidly, preventing the French Resistance from engaging in urban warfare that would have destroyed parts of Paris. He knew the war was lost and decided alone to save the capital.[15]

en.wikipedia.org . . .

There is a controversy about von Choltitz's actual role during the battle since he is regarded a totally different way in France and Germany. In Germany, he is regarded as a humanist and a hero who saved Paris from urban warfare and destruction. In 1964, Dietrich von Choltitz explained in an interview taped from his Baden Baden home, why he had refused to obey Hitler: "If for the first time I had disobeyed, it was because I knew that Hitler was insane" ("Si pour la première fois j'ai désobéi, c'est parceque je savais qu'Hitler déraisonnait")". According to a 2004 interview his son Timo gave to the French public channel France 2, von Choltitz's father disobeyed Hitler and personally allowed the Allies to take the city back safely and rapidly, preventing the French Resistance from engaging in urban warfare that would have destroyed parts of Paris. He knew the war was lost and decided alone to save the capital.[15]

However in France, this version is seen as a "falsification of History" since von Choltitz is regarded as a Nazi officer faithful to Hitler involved in many controversial actions such as:

In 1940 and 1941, he gave the orders to destroy Sevastopol and burn Rotterdam.[16]
During the battle for Paris:
On 23 August, he ordered the burning of the Grand Palais occupied by FFI resistance.[17]
On 19 August, he ordered the destruction of the Pantin great windmills in order to starve the population.[18]
On 16 August, he ordered the execution of 35 members of the resistance at the Bois de Boulogne waterfall.[19]

In a defiant, yet inexcusable, gesture of disobedience–or perhaps because he was inexperienced, having never commanded a division in combat–Leclerc disregarded Haislip’s order. Instead of continuing on his assigned route, the impetuous French commander sent his vehicles around the left side, through the middle, and around the right of the town. Those Frenchmen traveling on the right used a road Haislip had reserved for the Americans.

It took Leclerc’s men six hours to get through the forest. During this time, they blocked the American armored division and prevented it from hurrying to Argentan. Amid the ensuing confusion, three panzer divisions arrived in Argentan to defend the town. They kept the Allies out. Leclerc and his men then found themselves stuck on the outskirts of Argentan, maintaining the southern jaw of the Falaise pocket. Paris was a hundred miles away.

On the following day, August 14, Patton sent part of the XV Corps, but not Leclerc’s division, to the east and toward the Seine River. Leclerc asked Patton when the French could go to Paris. Patton bluntly told Leclerc to remain where he was.

On August 15, Patton recorded in his diary: ‘Leclerc came in very much excited. He said, among other things, that if he were not allowed to advance on Paris, he would resign. I told him in my best French that he was a baby

www.historynet.com . . .

Yet another selfish betrayal by the fwench. One must wonder how many allied soldiers died needlessly to satisfy the fwench ego. All so fwenchmen could get to Paris and claim they won the war and enjoy a baguette and a parade.

what is this bullshit ?

If the 2 db division did not enter in the Grand Paris, the uprising would have been crushed by germans. Like in Warsaw(Poland) where Soviet armies let germans crush the polish.Despite they were in the outskirts of Warsaw.

PopsFrost wrote:


Yet another selfish betrayal by the fwench. One must wonder how many allied soldiers died needlessly to satisfy the fwench ego. All so fwenchmen could get to Paris and claim they won the war and enjoy a baguette and a parade.

Downright Amazing how the French found the courage to pop off a few rounds, when a million Americans were behind them, but not when a couple of invading Germans were in front of them.

About courage, we're still waiting for an heroic action from your part, JeanTapette. I don't know... Something like take your gun and go to the front.

malbarre wrote:

About courage, we're still waiting for an heroic action from your part, JeanTapette. I don't know... Something like take your gun and go to the front.

I have already seen more action than you will ever experience Cowardly Islamofacist Nazi Amerphobic Degenerate Draft Dodging Queerbait and I am due for a promotion soon.

due to your iq, i wonder which promotion.

Yet another selfish betrayal by the fwench, all for a baguette and a parade.

Case closed.

Turkey in the EU - NOW!!

and Sarkozy on his knees under the desk in the Oval Office.

malbarre wrote:

About courage, we're still waiting for an heroic action from your part, JeanTapette. I don't know... Something like take your gun and go to the front.

You ask too much Malbarre...

First things first. That is a great documentary so I will give it the K it deserves.

Second I hink it was a terrific effort by allied forces to liberate Paris.

Oliver_cromwell wrote:

First things first. That is a great documentary so I will give it the K it deserves.

www.youtube.com . . .

JeanValette wrote:

[q=malbarre]About courage, we're still waiting for an heroic action from your part, JeanTapette. I don't know... Something like take your gun and go to the front.

I have already seen more action than you will ever experience Cowardly Islamofacist Nazi Amerphobic Degenerate Draft Dodging Queerbait and I am due for a promotion soon.[/q]

about the famous draft, people here from my generation did more in one year than you will never do in all your life, you nasty dawrf. In true regiments, with true weapons, with their german, british, canadian and american comrades in front of the Soviet armored hordes. Ready to die after ten minutes of heavy fight, killed by a fucking Hind ambushed behind a wood or outnumbered in a hopeless battle at one against ten. "It's a good day to die" was our war yell. It was our role in Germany: to die to justify after our massacre, a nuclear tactical shot on the german soil over soviet troops at our frontiers as a first and last warning.

Generation after generation, during 40 years, 50.000 frenchmen every year were chosen for this mission, heirs to the greatest traditions of sacrifice of the French Armies. We were not numerous. That's right. Often, criticisms against the French today are justified.

But I would have never made fun about you if you were humbler. Logistics and provisioning are the two udders of a victorious army. Oh, I know, you can laugh about the great failures of Armies who lost 90.000 men in one month against Germans in 1940. And to play violin with Omaha Beach. The fact is that you're not of the race of the guy who lost their lives on Normandy Beach. And if the Free World has a debt towards these men, I do not have any toward you. Try to look like them rather to have this behavior of whore.

You're just a pathethic moron just able to make fun about a band of brothers who chose to fight on first lines, and prefer the death to live the defeat.

I have respect for guys like VAVD, IhateHippies and the others here, who saw the fire. All my respects. As I respect every fighter in the world, friend or ennemy. As the good Hail to them.

But I have absolutely no respect for small bitches like you who succeed in having promotions, hidden at rear while their comrades take their turn in A-stan or Iraq. Tell us. How do you get it? The only action hou have seen, are the cocks of your gay captain in you throat.

JeanValette, I'm all agog to hear details of your heroism. Don't be shy, tell us all about it.

For shame!

OldLyme wrote:






For shame!

Losers you too

The closer the Allies got to Paris the more french shed their Nazi uniforms and joined the resistance.

My uncle was fighting in france and as soon as they came up on a new town young men of military age would rush to meet them and wanted to help point out where the Germans and snipers were hiding. Everybody in the American company knew that only moments earlier these asshats were wearing German uniforms. They could easily tell this because most of the time their clothes didn't fit and weren't even buttoned up. They dressed in a hurry and rushed outside to be a french hero.

My uncle's company would either beat the living shit out of these guys or they would just shoot them on the spot.

Heroes! LOL

Uncle_Meat wrote:

The closer the Allies got to Paris the more french shed their Nazi uniforms and joined the resistance.

My uncle was fighting in france and as soon as they came up on a new town young men of military age would rush to meet them and wanted to help point out where the Germans and snipers were hiding. Everybody in the American company knew that only moments earlier these asshats were wearing German uniforms. They could easily tell this because most of the time their clothes didn't fit and weren't even buttoned up. They dressed in a hurry and rushed outside to be a french hero.

My uncle's company would either beat the living shit out of these guys or they would just shoot them on the spot.

ça va la branlette ? 3 millions men in stalag. 100.000 in the Reistance and 100.000 in Militia or SS Charlemagne.

A nation of too young men, old people, survivors of the WW1, children and women.

So. Where were the 3 billion french dressed in nazi uniform your uncle bigass have seen?

Uncle_Meat wrote:

The closer the Allies got to Paris the more french shed their Nazi uniforms and joined the resistance.

My uncle was fighting in france and as soon as they came up on a new town young men of military age would rush to meet them and wanted to help point out where the Germans and snipers were hiding. Everybody in the American company knew that only moments earlier these asshats were wearing German uniforms. They could easily tell this because most of the time their clothes didn't fit and weren't even buttoned up. They dressed in a hurry and rushed outside to be a french hero.

My uncle's company would either beat the living shit out of these guys or they would just shoot them on the spot.

That's amazing bullshit.

Popfrost, the dishonest LIARD

www.historynet.com . . .
On August 15, Patton recorded in his diary: ‘Leclerc came in very much excited. He said, among other things, that if he were not allowed to advance on Paris, he would resign. I told him in my best French that he was a baby and said I had left him in the most dangerous place on the front. We parted friends.’

Typical bashers dishonesty.

OldLyme wrote:






For shame!

Thank you for posting propaganda.

Uncle_Meat wrote:

The closer the Allies got to Paris the more french shed their Nazi uniforms and joined the resistance.

My uncle was fighting in france and as soon as they came up on a new town young men of military age would rush to meet them and wanted to help point out where the Germans and snipers were hiding. Everybody in the American company knew that only moments earlier these asshats were wearing German uniforms. They could easily tell this because most of the time their clothes didn't fit and weren't even buttoned up. They dressed in a hurry and rushed outside to be a french hero.

My uncle's company would either beat the living shit out of these guys or they would just shoot them on the spot.

And I'm sure your uncle was able to make the difference between Mass-collabo and Force-collabo...

Idiot, go hide yourself in a doghouse!