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Should the French government continue to dictate what is shown in French movie theaters?  en>fr fr>en
By Crusader Comments: 4913, member since Fri Jul 08, 2005

On Thu Jul 24, 2008 06:56 AM
Edited by Crusader (77369) on 2008-07-24 06:57:17

Of all of the EU member-states
France implemented the most aggressive quota system. It has since put forth the greatest effort to fend off what it has termed "American cultural imperialism.." France currently requires that no more than 40% of films shown in France are of non-European origin. Its dedication to the quota system is also evident in its repeated lobbying efforts within the EU. The goal would be to have every European member-state impose similiar quota systems.

www.american.edu . . .

39 Replies to Should the French government continue to dictate what is shown in French movie theaters?


This is serious people...McDonalds and Euro Disney could be next...

Culturally, the US is as closed as cold-war Albania.

Name ONE movie that has been played in more than 10 US cinema theaters and that hasn't been played in France.

I will then name you DOZENS of movies from all over the world that have been played in France and not in more than one US theater.

I've been to the movies on both sides of the Atlantic enough to know that WE have the diversity, WE have the choise, WE have the freedom.

Then why the government restrictions?

Why not get rid of that silly little law?

FREEDOM!!!!!!

why do you care?? as long as your have all the shitty movies you can enjoy in your shithole, it is fine for you!!!no??

or maybe you cant live without FRANCE ????

I accept your surrender.

Name ONE movie that has been played in more than 10 US cinema theaters and that hasn't been played in France.

I will then name you DOZENS of movies from all over the world that have been played in France and not in more than one US theater.


....Gee, you think that just maybe, its because the films from "all over the world" SUCK?! And the US consumer has no care to watch filth and squalor? Oh yeah....you have no idea how free markets work....go back to your fiefdom, serf!

Then why the government restrictions?

There is NO restriction in French cinema theaters, you must be confusing with Spain or South Korea where there are national quotas.

What your source says is about TV, they are wrong when they say it also concerns theaters. And, of course, like the good basher that you are, you didn't even bother checking.

Anyway, whatever preserves the diversity of our cultural offer, I wouldn't want it to end:
I would not want to live in a Europe where all cinema theaters from Paris to Varsaw, Lisbon to Stockholm, Athens to Dublin play the exact same movies in the exact same multiplex theaters of the exact same shopping malls with the exact same stores like it is throughout the US.

You might feel comfortable in a mono-cultural tasteless society where only universal products succeed, but this is not the European way of life, and not consistent with the European dream of "unity in diversity".

Denial is not just a river in Egypt.

Pick your own source then, as there are countless of them available to anyone who just googles the issue.

FREEDOM!!!!

You might feel comfortable in a mono-cultural tasteless society where only universal products succeed, but this is not the European way of life, and not consistent with the European dream of "unity in diversity".

..."unity with diversity" really seems to work for y'all! How many cars were torched last night? How many wars have been fought on your soil? Your "model" works real well...HA! lol

[q=ymifrench]

..."unity with diversity" really seems to work for y'all! How many cars were torched last night? How many wars have been fought on your soil? Your "model" works real well...HA! lol


ARe you competing for the award of the dumbest post ever ?

pieceofshit wrote:

ARe you competing for the award of the dumbest post ever ?

...Sorry if you feel insecure with your status as the stupidest moron here, but, no, I'm not competing against you so you can continue with your dreams of being best at something.

If you were on international trading, you should see that each time USA sign trade bills with an individual country, it impose the display of a minimal quota of american movies.

Hollywood is the arm of american imperialism.

If french are limited american movies (what is totally wrong), americans impose their movies to other peoples.

What the french never did, even when we were one of the two global superpower.

Ok, there were no so much movies at that time... But there were other cultural stuffs and french were the best without imposing it.


What the french never did, even when we were one of the two global superpower.

.....Thanks, I didn't realize motion pictures existed prior to 1895.

Pick your own source then

Well, even if the name of the directive should be enough ( "Television without Frontiers" could give you a hint that theaters are not concerned) here's a link to the EU's Audiovisual and Media Policies, you'll find nothing about theaters because there's nothing about theaters.

ec.europa.eu . . .

You will also learn that the "Television without Frontiers directive" has been replaced in 2007 by the "Audiovisual Media Services Directive", and still nothing about theaters.

As for the old 1928 quotas rule of 120 American films per year, it's been a long time that it's been abolished and replaced by financial support to local productions.
Maybe the fact that Universal Studios were French-owned not so long ago, and that Universal Music still is, helped to modernize our regulations.

....

Your "model" works real well...

If you don't like our model, don't take it!
But don't try to impose yours to me.

I would not want Europeans to have the reputation world-wide of loud, ignorant and obese cowboys.

But there were other cultural stuffs and french were the best without imposing it.

. . . .Would the indigenous populations of your "overseas departments" agree with this observation?

". . . .Would the indigenous populations of your "overseas departments" agree with this observation?"


We imposed to them to work... Not to read or watch our stuffs...







Ok, that's not funny.

A couple of the countless previously banned and censored films in France:

France

* 1939: Beau Geste was banned until 1977 for portraying the Foreign Legion in a negative light and insulting French culture
* 1943: Le Corbeau was banned until 1969, first by the Nazis, then the French government, for dealing with collaboration.
* 1953: Les statues meurent aussi, a short film by Alain Resnais was banned. Its theme was that Western civilization is responsible for the decline of black art. The film was seen at the Cannes Film Festival in 1953 but subsequently banned by the French censor.[4]
* 1957-1975: Paths of Glory was banned because it suggested that French soldiers in World War I executed their own soldiers for cowardice. [5] This was done by the Italian and British armies, but there is no evidence that it was done by the French.
* 1960: Le Petit Soldat was banned on political grounds and the ban was lifted in 1963 with certain cuts.[6]
* 1970: Mais ne nous délivrez pas du mal, also known as Do not Deliver Us from Evil, was a movie based on the Parker-Hulme murder that was banned for blasphemy.

Atlantic, the language is "no more than 40% of films shown in France are of non-European origin..."

This applies to theaters. Here is the first paragraph

The 1989 EU
"Television Without Frontiers" directive and quotas implemented by the French Government limit the number of American films shown in French theaters and on French Television. The EU Broadcast Directive was passed inOctober 1989 in an effort to protect and promote the Europeancultural identity. The directiverequires that EU member-states reserve a majority (51 percent) of entertainment broadcast transmission time for programs of European origin. France lobbied hardest to pass the EU directive and has since implemented the most stringent quotas within its national system. In order to show its good faith, France even requires its TV and Movie distributors to purchase from European neighbors, without any guarantee that they will reciporicate. In the context of this case study, the principles and rationale prescribed by the French government will be examined.

www.american.edu . . .

This applies to theaters. Here is the first paragraph

Well, Crusader, you said there was many sources and yet you still post the same, which is wrong.
No, "Television without Frontiers" didn't concern theaters.
No, there's no quota in French theaters programmation today.

Anyway, there are 177 pages of movies played in French theaters this week. They are from all over the world:

www.premiere.fr . . .

How many movies in your state?
From how many different US states?
From how many different countries?

I would not want Europeans to have the reputation world-wide of loud, ignorant and obese cowboys.

. . . But you're OK with europeons having the worldwide reputation of being rude, obnoxious, and smelly?

ymifrench wrote:


. . . But you're OK with europeons having the worldwide reputation of being rude, obnoxious, and smelly?


Sorry euros have no such repution but yanks DO have a rep for being loud fat and ignorant. Just because you want somthing to be true dosen't make it so :)

Additional info on French efforts to restrict American films. Note especially the last line quoted below...

FREEDOM!!!!

France's commitment to film protectionism became an international issue in the spring of 1994, during the General Agreement on Tariffs and Trade (GATT) talks. The world's leading trading nations negotiated widespread tariff reductions on goods and services, usually on a quid-pro-quo basis. American negotiators promised to remove many trade barriers against European goods, but they asked in return that the Europeans--especially the French--extend impartial treatment to American movies and remove the special taxes and quotas.

The French refused. Indeed, keeping out American films became one of the most important French national policies. The well-known director Claude Berri (Jean de Florette) reflected a popular attitude when he warned that "if the GATT deal goes through as proposed, European culture is finished." The French government even promised to veto any GATT agreement that did not preserve its protectionist policies toward film. French officials condemned Steven Spielberg's Jurassic Park as a "threat to [French] national identity." Despite the protestations of Hollywood, the Americans backed down and acceded to the wishes of the French government. After the French won the GATT battle, French director Jean Jacques claimed, "We removed the threat that European culture would be completely eliminated."

www.reason.com . . .
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