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France to Stay Course in Afghanistan en>fr fr>en
By FrenchAreToast Comments: 7759, member since Mon Aug 18, 2003
On Mon Sep 22, 2008 02:37 PM
Edited by FrenchAreToast (71905) on 2008-09-22 14:38:04
Locked by FrenchAreToast (71905) on 2008-09-23 18:12:54 superfluity of morons
The French lower house voted Monday to continue with and beef up its mission in in Afghanistan despite crumbling public support for the deployment. The lower house of Parliament voted 343 to 210 to keep France's 3,300 troops in Afghanistan and nearby areas. The upper house, the Senate, will also vote on the issue. The votes Monday are the first under a constitutional amendment approved in July that requires lawmakers to vote on any foreign military operation lasting more than four months, news agency AP reported. The French government is also to send more helicopters, equipment and an extra 100 troops to Afghanistan following the recent death of 10 of its soldiers in an ambush near Kabul, Prime Minister Francois Fillon said Monday.

France to Stay Course in Afghanistan

French troops have learned a lesson from the Aug. 10 ambush, says the French president

The French lower house voted Monday to continue with and beef up its mission in in Afghanistan despite crumbling public support for the deployment.

The lower house of Parliament voted 343 to 210 to keep France's 3,300 troops in Afghanistan and nearby areas.



The upper house, the Senate, will also vote on the issue.



The votes Monday are the first under a constitutional amendment approved in July that requires lawmakers to vote on any foreign military operation lasting more than four months, news agency AP reported.

The French government is also to send more helicopters, equipment and an extra 100 troops to Afghanistan following the recent death of 10 of its soldiers in an ambush near Kabul, Prime Minister Francois Fillon said Monday.

"The President of the Republic (Nicolas Sarkozy) and government have learnt the lesson from this murderous ambush," Fillon said, adding that the reinforcements would arrive within a "few weeks."

"Concretely, Caracal and Gazelle helicopters, drones, listening devices, and supplementary mortars will be sent, along with the corresponding troops, that is to say around 100 men," he said.

Controversy over deaths

The parliamentary vote came amidst a controversy provoked by the deaths of the10 French soldiers on Aug. 18 in a firefight with Taliban rebels east of the Afghan capital Kabul.

The deaths of 10 French soldiers in Afghanistan erroded public support for the war

The publication of a "classified NATO report" in the Canadian daily Globe and Mail Saturday, alleging that the soldiers had been badly equipped, further heated the debate.



According to the putative report, the French soldiers ran out of ammunition after 90 minutes of fighting and had only one radio in their possession, which ceased functioning shortly after the fighting began.



The defence ministry has denied the existence of any formal NATO report and Fillon said the French contingent was well armed, with some three tons of munitions used up by the soldiers during that fighting.



French, German anti-war protests



The French move to continue with its mission comes amid deepening unease among Europeans about the conflict in Afghanistan as a resurgent Taliban inflict increasingy casualties.

The Aug. 18 attack on French troops has deeply eroded public support for the military mission with an opinion poll in L'Express magazine last week showing that 62 percent of French people were against their troops remaining in Afghanistan.

Protests throughout France and Germany were held to call an end to the war in Afghanistan

On Saturday Sept. 20, thousands of people in Germany and Britain took to the streets calling for soldiers deployed in Afghanistan to be brought home.

Demonstrators, who had been mobilised by 250 pacifist groups and trade union organisations, carried banners with slogans including "Give peace a chance - Bring the troops back from Afghanistan."

More than 5,000 people protested in Berlin and Stuttgart police there said, while some 2,000 turned out in Paris, according to French police.

www.dw-world.de . . .

43 Replies to France to Stay Course in Afghanistan

re: France to Stay Course in Afghanistan (karma: 10)  en>fr fr>en
By Yorktownmember has saluted, click to view salute photos Comments: 4392, member since Mon May 23, 2005
On Mon Sep 22, 2008 02:44 PM
"Surrender monkeys", anyone?
re: France to Stay Course in Afghanistan (karma: 1)  en>fr fr>en
By Francestinks Comments: 944, member since Sun Mar 05, 2006
On Mon Sep 22, 2008 03:45 PM
''The Aug. 18 attack on French troops has deeply eroded public support for the military mission with an opinion poll in L'Express magazine last week showing that 62 percent of French people were against their troops remaining in Afghanistan.''

10 french soldiers killed and the french want their troops to give up already! The french are really chickens, in 1940 they were even stronger than today, they are ready to surrender already! They will be the slaves of the muslims in their own country one day because they have no guts anymore and no courage left.
French courage died in 1918 forever it seems.
re: France to Stay Course in Afghanistan en>fr fr>en
By Francestinks Comments: 944, member since Sun Mar 05, 2006
On Mon Sep 22, 2008 03:47 PM
''The Aug. 18 attack on French troops has deeply eroded public support for the military mission with an opinion poll in L'Express magazine last week showing that 62 percent of French people were against their troops remaining in Afghanistan.''

10 french soldiers killed and the french want their troops to give up already! The french are really chickens, in 1940 they were even stronger than today, they are ready to surrender already! They will be the slaves of the muslims in their own country one day because they have no guts anymore and no courage left.
French courage died in 1918 forever it seems.
re: France to Stay Course in Afghanistan (karma: 1)  en>fr fr>en
By djdv Comments: 2312, member since Mon Jul 10, 2006
On Mon Sep 22, 2008 03:57 PM
Arrogant colabo french to stay the course in Afganistan means three things.

1. clean latrines
2. more peeled potatos
3. Taliban and AQ laughing thier asses off knowing there is an easy target.

FUCK france!
re: France to Stay Course in Afghanistan (karma: 7)  en>fr fr>en
By abraracoursix Comments: 3098, member since Wed Jan 05, 2005
On Mon Sep 22, 2008 04:00 PM
Francesmellsogood wrote:

''The Aug. 18 attack on French troops has deeply eroded public support for the military mission with an opinion poll in L'Express magazine last week showing that 62 percent of French people were against their troops remaining in Afghanistan.''

10 french soldiers killed and the french want their troops to give up already! The french are really chickens, in 1940 they were even stronger than today, they are ready to surrender already! They will be the slaves of the muslims in their own country one day because they have no guts anymore and no courage left.
French courage died in 1918 forever it seems.


what is funny is when an ignorant asshole come proudly to say what he has read or even more watched on tv while ignoring what was the situation before!
Asshole, French population as UK or USA population (even more in UK and USA than France you fucking cowards!!) are in majority against seeing their boys dying for a country and muslim population which doesn't deserve it! And in France the poll were about the same before and after the ambush.
Afghanistan is undomesticable, mainly the way the "war" is made!
Let the French applicate their anti-gurilla warfare like in Algeria and things will change in the good way!
Sure, we will have to close the eyes on some principes of human rights but ... qu'est ce qu'on s'en fout????
re: France to Stay Course in Afghanistan (karma: 10)  en>fr fr>en
By malbarre Comments: 14404, member since Wed Aug 24, 2005
On Mon Sep 22, 2008 04:08 PM
djdv, sale petite pute suceuse de crouillats

1/ The French fought several hours with a very light ammo reserve and prefered to be killed rather to run at one againt 5

2/ The ANA fled

3/ The famous American heroes on second line with the French never tried to climb the road to fight with the French or just to help them for air support.

4/ They prefered to call the US Choppers which... fled the battle because the Talibans shot at them! :O

6/ The French choppers, which were on another mission, came later and did the job the american surrenders monkiz didn't.

So, shut the fuck up and fuck off, surrender BABOON. You're just a big mouth with very small testicles (and I'm generous).

Case closed.
re: France to Stay Course in Afghanistan (karma: 5)  en>fr fr>en
By Lovemore Comments: 3639, member since Fri Sep 23, 2005
On Mon Sep 22, 2008 04:26 PM
When the only one to show up bashing is Dvdj you know the ownage is massive, this guy is a machine, a pic, a 2 sentence post and that's it. More than 2000 spams like that, this is the guy I don't need to read "its' post, I already know what it's going to write before it actually does.

No wonder there are few bashers to comment the news, there is nothing to say really, and they just learned their commie government just stole them 2000$ each to save other thieves.
No shit, 2000$, how's that?

:D

By the way: www.fuckfrance.com . . .

Even this thread is a failure, it's a dupe.
But then again, how can one not make mistake when feeling so depressed.
re: France to Stay Course in Afghanistan (karma: 2)  en>fr fr>en
By FrenchAreToast Comments: 7759, member since Mon Aug 18, 2003
On Mon Sep 22, 2008 05:27 PM
Even this thread is a failure, it's a dupe.
But then again, how can one not make mistake when feeling so depressed.
This is not a dupe. First, you didn't cite the source in your original post (later in a comment). Second, this is not the same article.

This isn't even an article critical of the French ! What is your problem ? Too depressed to read comprehensively ? The "bashers" clearly have you upset and depressed when you respond with such venom.
re: France to Stay Course in Afghanistan (karma: 2)  en>fr fr>en
By Francestinks Comments: 944, member since Sun Mar 05, 2006
On Mon Sep 22, 2008 05:36 PM
Abraracourcix, it is easy to write I am an asshole, but at least mine is clean and virgin unlike yours... Besides you can not deny the fact that since 1918, France lost all its wars, even if in Algeria you had the brave Aussaresse that I like and General Bigeard also, and few others, the fact is your people does not want to fight anymore, not only in Afghanistan but even in France.
I remember the massive riots you had few years ago, not a single Muslim was even shot!
French population is too leftist, loves the Arabs too much, and is too coward for the majority. And I don t even speak of your politicians.
re: France to Stay Course in Afghanistan en>fr fr>en
By US_Kindergarden Comments: 123, member since Mon Mar 24, 2008
On Mon Sep 22, 2008 05:40 PM
2000 dollars for each US citizen. A family of 3 kids has just lost 10 000 dollars in 2 days + 2,5 millions of those families has lost their houses, incidentaly.

Welcome in the dreamland country of those who like so much to be fucked by their gouvernement, and because they like that fuck in the ass, vote for Mac Cain for a new future fuck.
re: France to Stay Course in Afghanistan (karma: 2)  en>fr fr>en
By Francestinks Comments: 944, member since Sun Mar 05, 2006
On Mon Sep 22, 2008 05:44 PM
Afghanistan is the topic of this article, but of course you the french prefer changing of topic you always do the same when you are too embarassed and/or ashamed to answer.
re: France to Stay Course in Afghanistan (karma: 1)  en>fr fr>en
By MadRusski Comments: 26280, member since Mon Aug 16, 2004
On Mon Sep 22, 2008 06:15 PM
шящWelcome in the dreamland country of those who like so much to be fucked by their gouvernement,ш/ящ

Are you talking about Fwance, shithead? cuz in Fwance you are not only fucked in the ass by your government, but you then turn around and lick that dick clean. And brag how you love the taste.

Out of 2 candidates Obonga sure mean more socialism than McCain. 100 times more. You are not too bright but then again, you are French, so nobody expects much from you
re: France to Stay Course in Afghanistan (karma: 5)  en>fr fr>en
By CroixDeLorraine Comments: 3287, member since Sat Nov 26, 2005
On Mon Sep 22, 2008 06:52 PM
Edited by CroixDeLorraine (78578) on 2008-09-22 19:58:48
Francestinks
A enormous part of french press is leftist and a lot of french are uninformed properly.
Especially since we had not been directly under threat like you.
Still a lot of french support our commitment to Afghanistan like me.

Polls are a joke.
ALL the time they ask the same question:

Is french troops should leave afghanistan?
And proposed answers are:
Yes because the war is lost
or
Yes because Afghanistan is a quagmire
or
Yes because coalition strategy is unsuccessfull

Biased polls.Bullshit.
re: France to Stay Course in Afghanistan (karma: 2)  en>fr fr>en
By LMAOmember has saluted, click to view salute photos Comments: 6286, member since Sun Nov 06, 2005
On Mon Sep 22, 2008 07:31 PM
Edited by LMAO (78343) on 2008-09-22 19:32:47
LMAO in another thread ~ So you mean now that the taliban are on the run and the United States is winning the war in Afghanistan, France wants in on the action now that the shootin' has stopped. ummmm no

Just checkin'


Same is true on this thread

www.fuckfrance.com . . .
re: France to Stay Course in Afghanistan en>fr fr>en
By Lovemore Comments: 3639, member since Fri Sep 23, 2005
On Mon Sep 22, 2008 07:53 PM
FrenchAreToast wrote:

This is not a dupe. First, you didn't cite the source in your original post (later in a comment). Second, this is not the same article.

This isn't even an article critical of the French ! What is your problem ? Too depressed to read comprehensively ? The "bashers" clearly have you upset and depressed when you respond with such venom.


If you're thin skinned you have nothing to do here, sorry mate, if you're looking for friendship with French people try another board, I've read the name of this board and still haven't forgotten it.
re: France to Stay Course in Afghanistan (karma: 1)  en>fr fr>en
By FrenchAreToast Comments: 7759, member since Mon Aug 18, 2003
On Mon Sep 22, 2008 11:43 PM
Edited by FrenchAreToast (71905) on 2008-09-22 23:48:10
if you're thin skinned you have nothing to do here
Then why are you here ? You are just another idiot, so don't fool yourself into thinking you make this board more interesting (as you said in your pm).
re: France to Stay Course in Afghanistan (karma: 2)  en>fr fr>en
By BigDaddyCruzmember has saluted, click to view salute photos Comments: 17151, member since Mon Mar 10, 2003
On Tue Sep 23, 2008 12:07 AM
I bet the stinkies do not venture out of Kabul again.
re: France to Stay Course in Afghanistan (karma: 4)  en>fr fr>en
By letarsier59member has saluted, click to view salute photos Comments: 8035, member since Thu Jan 20, 2005
On Tue Sep 23, 2008 12:45 AM
Afghanistan is the topic of this article


Bingo! How many Israeli troops there ?
re: France to Stay Course in Afghanistan en>fr fr>en
By Stonewall Comments: 5212, member since Tue Jan 04, 2005
On Tue Sep 23, 2008 02:02 AM
letarsier59 wrote:

Afghanistan is the topic of this article


Bingo! How many Israeli troops there ?
Not really fair. They kind of have their hands full on their own borders.





Re the main article: Sorry, I can't see anything here to criticize. If I've read the article correctly, France is staying in Afghanistan, increasing troop strength and materiel. This in spite of a lot of highly publicized anti-war drivel from their universally hard-left media.

This is great. We need all the help we can get. Particularly since, as Abraracoursix points out;
Afghanistan is undomesticable, mainly the way the "war" is made!
. We are on a fools' errand trying to civilize islamists. We need to be hitting them so hard that they wont dare poke their noses out of their sandbox for the next thousand years, then destroying everything they have that's more technologically advanced than a rock. They're certainly incapable of rebuilding on their own. For us to engage in nation building is nothing more that raising enemies up to our level. Stupidity beyond comprehension!
re: France to Stay Course in Afghanistan (karma: 1)  en>fr fr>en
By letarsier59member has saluted, click to view salute photos Comments: 8035, member since Thu Jan 20, 2005
On Tue Sep 23, 2008 02:11 AM
Not really fair. They kind of have their hands full on their own borders.


So full that the French (and some other countries) had to send troops there. So full that they did not even manage to liberate the private Shalit, main goal of their last operations in south Lebanon, neither did they manage to kick the ass of a bunch of islamist bo-dois.

They should better keep silent about other countries's external operations.
re: France to Stay Course in Afghanistan (karma: 1)  en>fr fr>en
By Stonewall Comments: 5212, member since Tue Jan 04, 2005
On Tue Sep 23, 2008 02:33 AM
letarsier59 wrote:

So full that the French (and some other countries) had to send troops there.
The French/UN troops were ostensibly there as a peacekeeping force, not to help the Israelis.
So full that they did not even manage to liberate the private Shalit, main goal of their last operations in south Lebanon, neither did they manage to kick the ass of a bunch of islamist bo-dois.
That was definitely not Israel's most impressive military operation.
They should better keep silent about other countries's external operations.
I must have missed something. What did Israel say about France increasing troop strength in Afghanistan?
re: France to Stay Course in Afghanistan (karma: 1)  en>fr fr>en
By malbarre Comments: 14404, member since Wed Aug 24, 2005
On Tue Sep 23, 2008 03:01 AM
BigDaddyCruz wrote:

I bet the stinkies do not venture out of Kabul again.


You should not bet your skirt, chicanos asshole.
re: France to Stay Course in Afghanistan en>fr fr>en
By malbarre Comments: 14404, member since Wed Aug 24, 2005
On Tue Sep 23, 2008 03:14 AM
Stonewall wrote:

[q=letarsier59]So full that the French (and some other countries) had to send troops there.
The French/UN troops were ostensibly there as a peacekeeping force, not to help the Israelis.
So full that they did not even manage to liberate the private Shalit, main goal of their last operations in south Lebanon, neither did they manage to kick the ass of a bunch of islamist bo-dois.
That was definitely not Israel's most impressive military operation.
They should better keep silent about other countries's external operations.
I must have missed something. What did Israel say about France increasing troop strength in Afghanistan?[/q]

Not to help the Israelis? And yet, genius, the fact there is a UNO force (I do agree, French have not to be here) in south Lebanon give to Israel the opportunity to not be on first line with the Hezbollah and to have to answer to their attack. That was the goal of the war of 2006, isn't it?
re: France to Stay Course in Afghanistan (karma: 1)  en>fr fr>en
By TheCaledonianPremium member Comments: 10173, member since Fri Feb 24, 2006
On Tue Sep 23, 2008 03:27 AM
...keep France's 3,300 troops in Afghanistan and nearby areas...
OK, cut the crap, girls. How many French troops are IN Afghanistan?
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