Total gdp Non.

www.telegraph.co.uk . . .



A moment of Humor now. Des anglaises : English girls.
I have never seen that in my life in France in a street (i regret it sometimes )

There are no more free men in America, no more real men.

know where they went ? I DO

ASK THE WOMEN

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We bat this around incessantly, but I do have a question.

Besides drastically increasing it's birthrates, and cutting public sector spending; is there anything Europe can do to stop the slide?

trainer wrote:

We bat this around incessantly, but I do have a question.

Besides drastically increasing it's birthrates, and cutting public sector spending; is there anything Europe can do to stop the slide?

No, Europe is going down. Fast.

ECB needs to double the size of its bailout program

May 21 (Bloomberg) -- The European Central Bank’s Governing Council discussed a package of asset purchases worth about 125 billion euros ($170 billion) this month, more than twice the amount finally agreed upon, people briefed on the talks said.

The package proposed at the May 7 council meeting included buying commercial paper and corporate bonds, said the people, who declined to be identified because the discussions were private. After the meeting, President Jean-Claude Trichet announced plans to acquire 60 billion euros of covered bonds, low-risk securities backed by mortgages and public-sector loans. An ECB spokeswoman declined to comment.

More things going down

May 21 (Bloomberg) -- France’s benchmark CAC 40 Index dropped 85.96, or 2.6 percent, to 3,217.41. The SBF 120 slipped 60.28, or 2.5 percent, to 2,332.81.

The following stocks also fell in the French market. Stock symbols are in parentheses.

Air France-KLM Group (AF FP) sank 26 cents, or 2.3 percent, to 11.04 euros. Societe Generale SA lowered its recommendation for Europe’s largest airline to “hold” from “buy.”

Bouygues SA (EN FP) fell 1.37 euros, or 4.3 percent, to 30.46 euros, leading a decline in construction-related companies after the Federal Reserve cut its forecast for growth in the U.S., the world’s largest economy. Larger rival, Vinci SA (DG FP) retreated 1.40 euros, or 3.9 percent, to 34.86 and Lafarge SA (LG FP), the biggest cement maker, fell 1.39 euros, or 2.9 percent, to 47.30.

Electricite de France SA (EDF FP) slid 79 cents, or 2.1 percent, to 36.76 euros. Europe’s biggest power producer is selling 1.5 billion pounds ($2.4 billion) of bonds due June 2034, according to a banker involved in the transaction.

Total SA (FP FP), Europe’s third-largest oil company, declined 1.39 euros, or 3.4 percent, to 39.81. Technip SA (TEC FP), Europe’s second-biggest oilfield-services provider, slid 46 cents, or 1.4 percent, to 32.32 euros.

thanks Jagger for the news. Even if it is small variations lol .

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Jerry

Population is ageing in Europe, it's good news, people live longer and in good health.

And they will work longer also, because they will retire later.

I don't really see your point.

Obama's got a plan to fix all this. It's a secret plan, only Obama, Turbo Tax Tim Geitner and George Soros know the details but the code name is Zimbabwe.


























Turkey in the EU - NOW!!
Hey, we got Obama, don't the Your-a-peons deserve 72 million more muslims.

LaFranceBis wrote:

Jerry

Population is ageing in Europe, it's good news, people live longer and in good health.

And they will work longer also, because they will retire later.

I don't really see your point.

The Yurps work longer? Really? I don't see that. In fact, they don't work as long as in America despite their demographic death spiral.

It may be good news that people live longer but not having kids is terrible for a country. Where is the dynamism supposed to come from? Where are tomorrow's workers? Where would the military manpower come from should that be needed? It ain't like longer lived grannies are going to solve any of those problems.

LaFranceBis wrote:

Jerry

Population is ageing in Europe, it's good news, people live longer and in good health.

And they will work longer also, because they will retire later.

I don't really see your point.

Euro-dwarf,

They are living longer and collecting more on the dole, short stack. They are not having children, so as Jerry mentions, THE GREYING OF EUROABIA.

Who's chatting now: General: ProudRacist, EU_Army,

Time to chat but no time to comment on your own thread?

I blame a lot of the lack of replacement population on the Population Bomb BS of the 60's & 70's. People were urged not to have kids, or at most replacements only. The mantra was "People pollute, use up resources, stress the ecosystem, blah blah blah..."

Look here how many have bought into that. Remember not long ago all the ridicule of that family that had 12-14 kids (or whatever it was)? When I grew up, most families had 3-4 kids. It was extremely rare to see an only child and almost impossible to see no children. Of course, divorce was rare too and single moms almost unknown.

Sure, I know that as populations get more affluent, they have a tendancy to fewer children. Even the Romans experienced that. But it doesn't have to be.

Europe could turn around IF they made larger families not just economically advantageous (huge tax discounts) but also POPULAR. If somehow large families of traditional family units was made fashionable, they'd have a chance. However, I don't think that will happen. They've become too hedonistic and selfish. As soon as kids became an "option" not often bought into, the "usefulness" of grandparents (their parents) became less relevant. Note how many grannies and grampas died during that big heatwave in France. They became expendible.

Now...cultural extinction looms.

There will always be people, but who will they be?

LaFranceBis wrote:

Jerry

Population is ageing in Europe, it's good news, people live longer and in good health.

And they will work longer also, because they will retire later.

I don't really see your point.

Do you frogs even bother to think about looking up the facts before you spew such bullshit???




Looks like they are really working longer in france no?

Idiot.


Hey EUMoron, what's your opinion?

jerrylewissux wrote:


Not nearly as fast as you Eurotards.





Imbecile.

You are like a little kid, jerry, trying to get his fathers (mine) aproval. Ok so you want me to comment on your charts and let the world know you can make a chart? Big deal.

First of all you just spam 5 charts without a single comments on whats on and why. What the fuck does "GDP per capita" or "child born to women aged to 49" or "unployment rate" has to do with states that have shortchanged the retirement programs?

Besides that:

1. you dont know how to add a source
2. you dont put on whats on the axis
3. you cut the axis on "employment rates total" in order to manipulate etc.

In short, what does your charts to do with states that have shortchanged the retirement programs?

Yeah VikingRetard.....and you "oddly" don't want to comment on all the data I posted showing Yurps retire earlier, get more money from the government, Yurp countries are poorer and have more debts, and Yurpland is in the midst of a demographic death spiral while America is not. Gosh.....why is that?

simplefrench wrote:

I affirm that derivative products have been invented by americans.

Derivative - Financial (not math) Definition:
A financial contract, or financial instrument, whose values are derived from the value of an asset, the derivative is purchased by an asset holder to mitigate the risk of economic loss arising from changes in the value of the underlying asset.

Earliest recorded derivative
The Babylonians developed a system which was recorded in the famous Code of Hammurabi, c. 1750 BC, and practiced by early Mediterranean sailing merchants. If a merchant received a loan to fund his shipment, he would pay the lender an additional sum in exchange for the lender's guarantee to cancel the loan should the shipment be stolen.

Conclusion
By definition Babylonians were buying and selling credit default swaps circa 1750 BC. Simple is wrong by half a planet away and over three thousand five hundred years. Not that knowing facts or understanding what a derivative actually is would ever change simple's mind, but in case anyone else was uncertain.

EU_Army wrote:

Here's a look at how the crisis is playing out in New Jersey,

If the net cash flow from the NJ fund assets do not bounce back in 6 to 12 months, one solution would be to decrease benefits paid by the plan.

A pension 'time bomb' appears to have already exploded (not just if or maybe)in France a year or two ago.......

05.05.09, 11:20 AM EDT


"May 5 (Reuters) - French President Nicolas Sarkozy marks two years in office on Wednesday.

Below are some of the reforms he and his government have undertaken.

PENSIONS - In his first year in office, Sarkozy secured a reform of the so-called 'special regime' pension system that awarded special retirement privileges to some state workers. Full terms of the accord were never released, prompting opponents to suggest the government paid a high price for the deal."


.......but instead of cutting benefits to public employees, the French may have done exactly the opposite and stuck the taxpayer with even more liability. No one knows, as the phrase government accountability and transparency do not seem to apply in European finance.

So Princess finally responds to her thread!

Was it the 40+ email alerts you got saying someone responded to your thread?

EU_Princess wrote:



You are like a little kid, jerry, trying to get his fathers (mine) aproval. Ok so you want me to comment on your charts and let the world know you can make a chart? Big deal.

First of all you just spam 5 charts without a single comments on whats on and why. What the fuck does "GDP per capita" or "child born to women aged to 49" or "unployment rate" has to do with states that have shortchanged the retirement programs?

YOUR COMMENT IN THREAD:

- The US is going down.....

My REPLY TO YOUR COMMENT:

Not nearly as fast as you Eurotards.

And then I proceeded to prove it, with OECD data.

EU_Princess wrote:


Besides that:

1. you dont know how to add a source
2. you dont put on whats on the axis
3. you cut the axis on "employment rates total" in order to manipulate etc.

In short, what does your charts to do with states that have shortchanged the retirement programs?

I cut nothing and I posted links for you in some of the many threads that you've fled from concerning Europe's demise.

In fact, here is one, that you posted then fled:

www.fuckfrance.com . . .


Now tell me Princess, what do you think of the fact that Europe has an older population, that is retiring earlier than that of the US, and has a much lower birthrate?

How about a consistently higher number collecting unemployment, dramatically higher long term unemployment, and a lower percentage of able bodied people employed?

As of 22:03 GMT, right now, the EUR/DKK cross is at a 24 hour high.
7.4452 on the bid, 7.4461 on the offer!

EU_Army, someone with your great market insight ought to sign up to trade this cross, this outfit www.fxcm.com will let you trade with spreads as small as 1 pip and let you lever up 500:1. You'll make a fortune. Don't let simple know your positions, though, he will steal all your money and walk away laughing.

First of all you just spam 5 charts without a single comments on whats on and why. What the fuck does "GDP per capita" or "child born to women aged to 49" or "unployment rate" has to do with states that have shortchanged the retirement programs?

Wow.

EUCoward,


When are you going to tell us what you think of the fact that Europe has an older population, that is retiring earlier than that of the US, and has a much lower birthrate?

How about a consistently higher number collecting unemployment, dramatically higher long term unemployment, and a lower percentage of able bodied people employed?