In a move that sparked fierce debate, a group of parliamentarians called for an inquiry into the wearing of the head-to-toe Islamic veil in France and whether Muslim women who cover themselves completely in public constitute an assault on French secularism and women's rights.

In a call that won support from senior figures in Mr Sarkozy's government, they demanded that a parliamentary commission consider the fate in France of the burka, where the eyes are covered by a fabric mesh, and the niqab, which has an eye slit.

While France's Muslim Council said the proposal "stigmatised" Islam, a commission is now expected to be established on the urging of the group of 65 politicians led by André Gerin, a Communist MP. Many of the 65 MPs are members of Mr Sarkozy's Right-wing UMP party.

Mr Gerin is also mayor of the southern city of Venissieux, which has a high immigrant population and where he complains women cover themselves in "mobile prisons".

"Our politicians need to stop acting so blind," he said, describing the burka as the mark of Islamic fundamentalism not is tune with secular France.

Luc Chatel, a government spokesman, said that all the options were open, including a ban. "If it were determined that wearing the burka is a submissive act, and that it is contrary to republican principles, well naturally parliament would have to drawn the necessary conclusions," he said.

If that meant introducing new legislation, he said, "why not".

The proposal won the support of Fadela Amara, the urban affairs minister and a women's rights campaigner whose parents were Muslims. "We must do everything to stop burkas from spreading, in the name of democracy, of the republic, of respect for women," she said, describing the garment as "a kind of tomb for women".

However, Eric Besson, the immigration minister, said that France - home to five million Muslims - had already managed to "strike a balance" between secularism and religious freedoms that it would be "dangerous" to call into question.

In 2004, the country passed a controversial law forbidding any conspicuous religion symbols from state schools, including veils, which are banned in government offices.

Mr Besson said that people must feel free to wear what they like in France without fear.

Martine Aubry, the head of the Socialist party, warned against "simplistic" responses. "If a law bans the burka, these women will still have [it] but will remain at home; they will no longer be seen," she said.

Dalil Boubakeur, the rector of the Paris Mosque, said he approved of a commission "on condition that they listen to what the experts on Islam have to say".

Although he linked the burka to fundamentalists, he said many women chose to wear it to assert their Muslim identity in a society they feel is hostile to any type of Islamic headscarf.

Mr Sarkozy promised to address the question in a speech to parliament on Monday.

I’m torn on this issue. Religious (or, really, any) oppression should be fought wherever it is found.

What happens when France decides that Christians wearing cross necklaces or Jews wearing yarmulkes are being “oppressed” and forbids them from wearing articles of their faith? If women are truly being forced to wear these articles of faith, find ways to heavily punish those forcing women to wear them.

Does France know where to draw the line between protecting people and suppressing expressions of religious faith?

To orthodox Muslim women, forbidding the hijab would be like “liberating” women by forcing them to walk around in bikinis.

Come on France, get up off your knees and show us your better side again.

He oui!

On vous emmerde tous!

1st step: scientology "church" dismantled.

2nd step: burka is a piece of tissue shit for retards.

3rd step: maybe some "evoluted" nations will follow us in our fight against islam.

What do you think?

What do you think?

I think you are approaching a very slippery slope. Maybe ...

4th step - Tomas de Torquemada?

BilltheCat wrote:


I think you are approaching a very slippery slope. Maybe ...

4th step - Tomas de Torquemada?

Try to stick on the subject.

By the way, do you have another pics of the "division Charlemagne" fighting the communists on the eastern front, or are you only able to cut and paste FF pics?

Try to stick on the subject.

Take a deep breath.

Put down the anti-freeze.

I suspect that symbolism is not your forte.

The issue is totalitarianism. You folks experimented with quite avidly during the early 1940's. It appears that you are suggesting a return to a bygone era. I suggest that you might want to rethink that position.

Would you like to save either of those?

BilltheCat wrote:

What do you think?

I think you are approaching a very slippery slope. Maybe ...

4th step - Tomas de Torquemada?

Bollocks PNV, no slippery slope in here.

I give credit to the French this time. The French are right to stand by their secular principles and defend woman´s right.

If the Muzzies want their women to wear burka they can stay in their religious state countries in the Middle East.

I wish that America and the UK take the example for once.

If the Muzzies want their women to wear burka they can stay in their religious state countries in the Middle East.

On this point I absolutely agree with you.

My issue is why codify it in law?

What happens when France decides that Christians wearing cross necklaces or Jews wearing yarmulkes are being “oppressed” and forbids them from wearing articles of their faith?

It will happen soon enough with the current rate of Muslim births and immigration in france. They can't keep then out of power forever.

With_Attitude wrote:

He oui!

On vous emmerde tous!

1st step: scientology "church" dismantled.

2nd step: burka is a piece of tissue shit for retards.

3rd step: maybe some "evoluted" nations will follow us in our fight against islam.

What do you think?

Only a frog would consider forbidding a little girl or a woman from wearing a kerchief a "fight against Islam."

The french "fight against Islam" LMAO.

A bandaid on a sucking chest wound.

I guess letting the savages riot nation wide is also a "fight against Islam"?

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I guess Marlboro missed this ... but then he's a froggish, so brains and observation are an optional feature.

When badly losing an argument ... obfuscate until the original point is lost in the bullshit that you heap on the issue.

Congratulations - your a wiener.

oh! I didn't know this one! Thank you! Thank you very much!

Let me guess. You're a creative, isn't it?

By the way, do you have another pics of the "division Charlemagne" fighting the communists on the eastern front,

Fighting the communist and their allies. NAZI collabo

Fighting the communist and their allies. NAZI collabo

Nah - mostly sucking cock and squirting out little Adolph's.

Great! Madparrot just have found a chum!

Stupid post again.

FFuckers claims page after page that France is surrendering to Islam.

So, when we fight Islam midde-aged principles and protect women's basic XXI's century rights (something that US + UK does not dare to do), just admit we are right.

FFuckers claims page after page that France is surrendering to Islam.

I'm merely commenting on the fact that you folks never seem to miss a chance at missing a chance.

Please send another one ... I need somebody else to sharpen my claws on.

That would expose the true beauty of the women of my religion.

As much as I despise muslims and as much as it pisses me off to see a woman wearing a burka in my country, I'm not ready for my government to start telling me what kind of clothing I may or may not wear. But for the little froggies who cannot rely on common sense in their day to day life and need Big Brother's edicts to guide them, this is probably a good thing.

As much as I despise muslims and as much as it pisses me off to see a woman wearing a burka in my country, I'm not ready for my government to start telling me what kind of clothing I may or may not wear. But for the little froggies who cannot rely on common sense in their day to day life and need Big Brother's edicts to guide them, this is probably a good thing.

Thank You, Thank You, Thank You!

This was my entire and only point. I was hoping that someone would articulate the position that I was trying to represent.

I knew there was probably a real Frenchman on this site who would step forward and shout to the heavens about the injustice that was about to be propagated.

I K you gladly and respectfully.

'Only a frog would consider forbidding a little girl or a woman from wearing a kerchief a "fight against Islam."'

You didn't get the point, JLS, the goal is to oppress poor little innocent muzzie women so they'll move to freedomland where retards like you defend their medieval traditions.

'To orthodox Muslim women, forbidding the hijab would be like “liberating” women by forcing them to walk around in bikinis.'

To orthodox muslim men, forbidding the bikini would be like 'liberating' women by forcing them to walk around in burkas.

Wish our idiot leaders had the balls to talk about this let alone do it.