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White House announces new lighting standards (karma: 3)  en>fr fr>en
By frankthekulak Comments: 743, member since Tue Dec 09, 2008
On Mon Jun 29, 2009 01:03 PM
Edited by frankthekulak (81883) on 2009-06-29 13:06:45
Dim bulbs controlling the light bulbs! It is a most brilliant day for us comrades! Hussien blathers on and show his usual lack of substance.

WASHINGTON (AP) - Chairman Hussien is launching a stepped up campaign to force improve energy conservation in America, saying the savings will be barely worthwhile substantial even though he acknowledges that "light bulbs might not seem sexy."

Hussien delivered a statement at the White House saying he's asked Energy Secretary Steven Chu to develop tougher government efficiency standards for light bulbs, saying Chu "is working every single day" on the mission.

He said his latest initiative "holds promise" for significantly cutting the use of energy across the country.

Aiming to keep the focus on global warming climate change legislation, Chairman Hussien is ready to talk about making lamps and lighting equipment use less energy.

On Monday afternoon, Hussien and Energy Secretary Steven Chu plan to disclose that $346 million in economic stimulus money will help improve energy efficiency in new and existing commercial buildings.

The White House added the event to the president's schedule at the last minute, just three days after the House narrowly approved the first energy legislation ever designed to destroy our economy and get the US on a carbon based socialist global economy curb global warming. The measure's fate is less certain in the Senate, where Democraps lack the 60 votes needed to block a certain filibuster.

Still, in an interview with a small group of reporters, Hussien's energy adviser Carol Brownout said: "I am confident that comprehensive energy legislation will pass the Senate." But she repeatedly refused to say exactly when the White House expected the Senate to pass the measure, and she wouldn't speculate on whether Hussien would have legislation sent to his desk by year's end.

The White House is working to keep Micheal Jackson energy in the spotlight even as Congress takes a break this week for the July 4 holiday. Hussien has spent the past few days pressuring the Senate to follow the House while also seeking to show that the administration is making quick, clear progress on energy reform without legislation.

In February, the president directed the Energy Department to update it's energy conservation standards for everyday household appliances such as dishwashers, lamps and microwave ovens. Laws on the books already required new efficiency standards for household and commercial appliances. But they have been backlogged in a tangle of missed deadlines, bureaucratic disputes, and litigation.

Somehow Hussien is going to "fix" this? That's a laugh!

At the time, Hussien said: "This will save consumers money, this will spur innovation, and this will conserve tremendous amounts of energy,"

How? By making electricity sooooo expensive the consumer will no longer use lights. Brilliant!

The administration already has released new standards on commercial refrigeration.

Lamps are next.

The administration says 7 percent of all energy consumed in the U.S. is for lighting, and the new standards, which will take effect in 2012, will cover fluorescent and incandescent lamps and lighting equipment in households and commercial buildings.

The White House says the changes will save enough electricity from 2012 through 2042 to power every home in the U.S. for up to 10 months, and will result in an annual savings for consumers of between $1 billion to $4 billion over that thirty-year period.

$2 billion over 30 years, about $6.5 million a year, but by 2042 the $1 will be worth about 5 cents. Big whoop!

Copyright 2009 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.suck-it!

24 Replies to White House announces new lighting standards

re: White House announces new lighting standards (karma: 2)  en>fr fr>en
By monkybot Comments: 1859, member since Wed Sep 10, 2008
On Mon Jun 29, 2009 01:07 PM
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re: White House announces new lighting standards en>fr fr>en
By simplefrench Comments: 57594, member since Wed Mar 19, 2003
On Mon Jun 29, 2009 01:15 PM
Edited by simplefrench (60194) on 2009-06-29 13:19:40
These new bulbs consume much less electricity. ( 4 time less for the same power) and lasts much longer.

But they are more expensive. You win money after 1 or 2 years. And the time of starting is longer.

It is a good move. But americans have to change their habit. In France,these lamps start to be bought a lot. The former ones will disappear in 2012 i think.
re: White House announces new lighting standards (karma: 10)  en>fr fr>en
By Hadrian Comments: 7874, member since Fri Jun 03, 2005
On Mon Jun 29, 2009 01:17 PM
A bunch of lousy, Chinese-made screw-in fluorescent bulbs that contain mercury (be very careful if one happens to break inside your house, especially if you have kids) in our landfills sounds like a terribly clever way to protect the environment.
re: White House announces new lighting standards (karma: 2)  en>fr fr>en
By Johnny_Ola Comments: 2795, member since Sat Apr 28, 2007
On Mon Jun 29, 2009 01:22 PM
I have yet to see one of these kinds of light bulbs give off good lighting. The light is weak and anemic and has all the warmth of a morgue.

There are plenty of long-life, low wattage, and less toxic conventional bulbs out there that I would prefer.

Plus, if people would just turn off the lights in rooms that are not being used, that would save more energy than anything. Motion sensors are a good way to do this passively.
re: White House announces new lighting standards (karma: 10)  en>fr fr>en
By idahoboy Comments: 3643, member since Sat Sep 16, 2006
On Mon Jun 29, 2009 01:22 PM
The whole country is going down the shitter, North Korea is developing missiles/nukes, we are being invaded my Messicans, Iran is developing nukes and Lord Obonga is worried about light bulbs. We are doomed.
re: White House announces new lighting standards en>fr fr>en
By simplefrench Comments: 57594, member since Wed Mar 19, 2003
On Mon Jun 29, 2009 01:25 PM
Edited by simplefrench (60194) on 2009-06-29 13:26:23
"I have yet to see one of these kinds of light bulbs give off good lighting. The light is weak and anemic and has all the warmth of a morgue."


See my answer above Johnny. But i noticed the same thing than you. The light seems weaker.
re: White House announces new lighting standards (karma: 3)  en>fr fr>en
By NOZZLE Comments: 7649, member since Mon Mar 07, 2005
On Mon Jun 29, 2009 01:27 PM
simplefrench wrote:

These new bulbs consume much less electricity. ( 4 time less for the same power) and lasts much longer.

But they are more expensive. You win money after 1 or 2 years. And the time of starting is longer.


Uh, no they don't produce the same amount of lite, try reading by one sometime instead of just looking at it.

Cost $6 for a 40 watt compared to a 44 cent incandescent bulb that last the same amount of time.

Contains mercury, go ahead smash one then call the cops so they can send out the hazmat team for a clean up.
re: White House announces new lighting standards en>fr fr>en
By ProjectLily Comments: 4453, member since Mon Mar 21, 2005
On Mon Jun 29, 2009 01:33 PM
Hmmmm.....

doesn't GE make lightbulbs? Pretty damn nice for them that the government mandates everyone buy the super-expensive "eco" shitbulbs. Just like crap and tax is set to have wind farms while GE is a major wind turbine producer as well.
re: White House announces new lighting standards (karma: 3)  en>fr fr>en
By GB_Gandalf Comments: 2453, member since Wed Oct 06, 2004
On Mon Jun 29, 2009 01:36 PM
Florescent bulbs do not last longer and their light is inferior. LED bulbs look interesting until you find out that they cost about $50 dollars each, the ROI in just stupid. Besides we all know what will happen. If we really did cut our consumption by 50% the power companies would cry about lost money and be allowed to raise rates substantially so their bottom line isn't affected. Non of the BS is going to save us little people any money.
re: White House announces new lighting standards en>fr fr>en
By MadRusski Comments: 31218, member since Mon Aug 16, 2004
On Mon Jun 29, 2009 01:43 PM
The idiot in Chief is a master of simple solution. Remember how he suggested to solve energy crisis with tuneups and proper tire inflation? Fucking ignoramus. Same shit like "green jobs".
re: White House announces new lighting standards en>fr fr>en
By Fearless_Leader Comments: 16278, member since Thu Dec 09, 2004
On Mon Jun 29, 2009 02:21 PM
GB_Gandalf wrote:

Florescent bulbs do not last longer and their light is inferior. LED bulbs look interesting until you find out that they cost about $50 dollars each, the ROI in just stupid. Besides we all know what will happen. If we really did cut our consumption by 50% the power companies would cry about lost money and be allowed to raise rates substantially so their bottom line isn't affected. Non of the BS is going to save us little people any money.

LED bulbs are the shit. I got an LED conversion kit for my MAG-Lite, it's incredible. But it is expensive.

Flourescent bulbs are fucking atrocious and they give me a damn headache.
re: White House announces new lighting standards en>fr fr>en
By simplefrench Comments: 57594, member since Wed Mar 19, 2003
On Mon Jun 29, 2009 04:04 PM
Edited by simplefrench (60194) on 2009-06-29 16:08:00
"Cost $6 for a 40 watt compared to a 44 cent incandescent bulb that last the same amount of time."


Not in France. They are supposed to last much more. And yes i'm talking about 6$ bulbs.
In 1 or 2 years,you win money because it consumes less.

On the other hand,i agree that they seem to produce less light.
re: White House announces new lighting standards (karma: 2)  en>fr fr>en
By sgian Comments: 1999, member since Wed Jul 09, 2008
On Mon Jun 29, 2009 04:34 PM
I use the fluorescent replacements and haven't had a problem. However, I don't like the idea of the government mandating their use.
re: White House announces new lighting standards en>fr fr>en
By Johnny_Ola Comments: 2795, member since Sat Apr 28, 2007
On Mon Jun 29, 2009 04:45 PM
GB_Gandalf wrote:

Florescent bulbs do not last longer and their light is inferior. LED bulbs look interesting until you find out that they cost about $50 dollars each, the ROI in just stupid. Besides we all know what will happen. If we really did cut our consumption by 50% the power companies would cry about lost money and be allowed to raise rates substantially so their bottom line isn't affected. Non of the BS is going to save us little people any money.


You hit the nail on the head. Just like in California, when they raised fuel tax "supposedly" to encourage people to buy more fuel efficient cars. They are now talking about basing the tax on miles driven because the revenue has gone down because people are buying MORE FUEL EFFICIENT CARS! Aaaaarrghhhh!!!
re: White House announces new lighting standards en>fr fr>en
By trmn8r Comments: 1912, member since Fri Feb 06, 2004
On Mon Jun 29, 2009 05:04 PM
What will we do?!?

With oil prices where they now, we con't even be able to use oil lamps! Sure as hell can't use whale oil anymore.
I guess that now is a good time to start investing in the candle making industry!
re: White House announces new lighting standards en>fr fr>en
By simplefrench Comments: 57594, member since Wed Mar 19, 2003
On Mon Jun 29, 2009 05:15 PM
A new bulb 15W is equivalent to a 60 or 75W ( classical bulb). At least in France

It consumes much less,it is obvious.
re: White House announces new lighting standards en>fr fr>en
By frankthekulak Comments: 743, member since Tue Dec 09, 2008
On Mon Jun 29, 2009 05:17 PM
trmn8r wrote:

What will we do?!?

With oil prices where they now, we can't even be able to use oil lamps! Sure as hell can't use whale oil anymore.
I guess that now is a good time to start investing in the candle making industry!


Too much pollution in a burning candle...

Maybe, this is the solution,




































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re: White House announces new lighting standards en>fr fr>en
By MadRusski Comments: 31218, member since Mon Aug 16, 2004
On Mon Jun 29, 2009 05:34 PM
Edited by MadRusski (74866) on 2009-06-29 17:35:14
A new bulb 15W is equivalent to a 60 or 75W ( classical bulb). At least in France


Yeah, that's what your Guwmint tells you. And a 100 of soy shit is equivalent of a steak.
re: White House announces new lighting standards en>fr fr>en
By DropThatPie Comments: 233, member since Thu Jun 18, 2009
On Mon Jun 29, 2009 05:37 PM
by 2042 the $1 will be worth about 5 cents


With the donks in power we won't have to wait quite that long. Give them a year and it will be worthless compared to real toilet paper.
re: White House announces new lighting standards en>fr fr>en
By BurnParis Comments: 23991, member since Thu Mar 13, 2003
On Mon Jun 29, 2009 06:15 PM
I wonder how the government will deal with the "ecological catastrophe" its creating with florescent bulbs?

Fluorescents should be outlawed . If incandescents are to be replaced with anything it should be LED

re: White House announces new lighting standards (karma: 2)  en>fr fr>en
By idahoboy Comments: 3643, member since Sat Sep 16, 2006
On Mon Jun 29, 2009 06:36 PM
Seems like everything the envirotards do ends up hurting people in poor countries. They ban DDT and poor people get malaria. they mandate ethanol and the price of food goes up. They mandate compact fluorescent lamps and poor people in China get mercury poising making these things.

Fuck the envirotards.
re: White House announces new lighting standards (karma: 1)  en>fr fr>en
By flyindutchmanmember has saluted, click to view salute photos Comments: 7949, member since Mon Jul 05, 2004
On Mon Jun 29, 2009 07:17 PM
....they're installing black lights thru out.
re: White House announces new lighting standards en>fr fr>en
By FuhkFrenchToads Comments: 1990, member since Thu Sep 01, 2005
On Mon Jun 29, 2009 08:03 PM
flyindutchman wrote:

....they're installing black lights thru out.


Now I know why Clintoon didn't take THAT initiative... LMFAO!!!
re: White House announces new lighting standards (karma: 1)  en>fr fr>en
By Eynahsint Comments: 747, member since Wed Dec 14, 2005
On Tue Jun 30, 2009 12:23 AM
I'd like to see the British members of the site comment on this. I swear I read a similar article on this site that Britain has implemented this very same policy and the Brits were commenting how terrible the lightbulbs are. Wouldn't be typical of Obama, not even capable of building an original policy and just importing failed European ones.

Me personally, I am with sgian. I use these sorts of bulbs in my house and have had no problems with them, and I'm no longer changing the bulbs every couple of months like I was in the past. But the benefits are slim enough and there's enough negatives (price, dimness, and these headaches I've heard about) for it to be something that the government shouldn't try to regulate.

The Dems won't be happy until you can't take a shit on your own toilet without checking in with a bureaucrat and getting a dumping permit.

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