  Discussions Switzerland does NOT HAVE an Army - Switzerland IS an Army (karma: 4)
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By HuguesCapet  Comments: 6822, member since Tue Sep 27, 2005On Mon Feb 08, 2010 05:42 AM
Edited by HuguesCapet (78098) on 2010-02-08 05:47:15
Edited by HuguesCapet (78098) on 2010-02-08 05:48:33
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By Liberal3801 Comments: 3762, member since Tue Oct 02, 2007On Mon Feb 08, 2010 06:06 AM
Apparently they're letting niggers, Indians and gooks in. |
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By jeanv Comments: 13230, member since Sun Sep 11, 2005On Mon Feb 08, 2010 06:10 AM
Edited by jeanv (78002) on 2010-02-08 06:12:10
Edited by jeanv (78002) on 2010-02-08 06:50:27 Air Force
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By HuguesCapet Comments: 6822, member since Tue Sep 27, 2005On Mon Feb 08, 2010 07:58 AM
jeanv wrote:
And yes, the right to bear arms is a guarantee of democracy.
K. Fully agree JeanV.
Gandhi said that before you...
"Among the many misdeeds of British rule in India, history will look upon the Act depriving a whole nation of arms as the blackest."
-- Mohandas Gandhi, An Autobiography, pg 446 |
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By Riasah Comments: 8634, member since Sat Mar 29, 2003On Mon Feb 08, 2010 08:31 AM
Well, that was certainly entertaining. |
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By HuguesCapet Comments: 6822, member since Tue Sep 27, 2005On Mon Feb 08, 2010 01:07 PM
vat do u min? |
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By dasboot Comments: 6061, member since Sat Apr 14, 2007On Mon Feb 08, 2010 01:20 PM
the Swiss are smart people
so are the Fins
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By HuguesCapet Comments: 6822, member since Tue Sep 27, 2005On Mon Feb 08, 2010 02:24 PM
Dasboot, not really interested in discussing which planes in use in the Swiss Air Force (they had Mirage-III for long, maybe still have some).
Point of the post. Swiss Army is great not because of its equipment, but because of its men, organisation and resolute approach to the defense of Swiss territory.
Using a complete fiction to illustrate the point.
If Switzerland was not neutral and they decided to invade one of their big neighbours, the Swiss Army would manage to get unchallenged to Paris or Bordeaux, Berlin or Hamburg before they would be stopped, due to the sheer numbers of these 2 big neighbours. |
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By jukinj3 Comments: 13077, member since Tue Apr 08, 2003On Mon Feb 08, 2010 03:00 PM
The Swiss are correct on this. They also stayed out of the euro which really demonstrates how smart they are. |
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By trainer Comments: 4890, member since Tue Mar 29, 2005On Mon Feb 08, 2010 03:16 PM
I read a report once on how the Swiss would defend the passes into their country.
These are basically a kill box for invading troops. The automated camo pop-up artillery in the rocks, pre zero'd in, was impressive...as were the purpose designed tanks.
Dropping para's into the flats ain't gonna do any good when everyone is armed and relieving troops can't get in. |
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By mamud Comments: 9076, member since Mon May 21, 2007On Mon Feb 08, 2010 03:19 PM
Edited by mamud (80618) on 2010-02-08 15:41:27
I respect the Swiss airforce. During WW2 they destroyed a US plane because it had entered their air space. They are friends of the yankees.
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By A_Thinking_Man Comments: 17915, member since Fri May 16, 2003On Mon Feb 08, 2010 05:20 PM
Edited by A_Thinking_Man (64994) on 2010-02-08 17:25:10
Edited by A_Thinking_Man (64994) on 2010-02-08 17:35:17
I read a report once on how the Swiss would defend the passes into their country.
These are basically a kill box for invading troops. The automated camo pop-up artillery in the rocks, pre zero'd in, was impressive...as were the purpose designed tanks.
Dropping para's into the flats ain't gonna do any good when everyone is armed and relieving troops can't get in.
All true. The problem with the Swiss strategy is that it depends on the threat of inflicting massive casualties on an invader as its main deterrence. So what happens when the enemy doesn't risk living soldiers in an invasion?
We've entered the robotic stage of armed conflicts. Inexpensive UAVs (Raven, Shadow, Hunter) and PackBot Explorers can be sent in ahead of any ground forces where their cameras can identify hidden artilliary, enemy troops, and possible ambush points. UCAVs, Gladiator Tactical Unmanned Ground Vehicles, and M249-equipped Talon robots can do massive damage without risking a single life.
Unless the Swiss are going to dig lots of concrete, self-sufficient bunkers to hide their people and soldiers, technology will eventually make their "get 'em at the pass" defense strategy as obsolete as France's "Margerine Line". |
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By simplefrench Comments: 60427, member since Wed Mar 19, 2003On Mon Feb 08, 2010 05:30 PM
Edited by simplefrench (60194) on 2010-02-08 17:33:05
"Unless the Swiss are going to dig lots of concrete, self-sufficient bunkers to hide their people and soldiers, technology will eventually make their "get 'em at the pass" defense strategy as obsolete as France's "Margerine Line"."
Not certain. They have not been invaded in both WW. I think they have not been invaded since 5 centuries. Trully impressive.
Nevertheless, in WW2,i don't think a real invasion has been tried by germans. Several of their planes were destroyed while they were flying above Suisse(Switzerland).
In the other hand,don't expect them to help others.. It is not their style.They could not care less. They never provided something in both WW i think.
They just protected their borders and received the gold of jews.
They have not only qualities these Emmental eaters. |
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By JeanValette Comments: 41617, member since Sat Mar 15, 2003On Mon Feb 08, 2010 07:19 PM
simplefrench wrote:
I think they have not been invaded since 5 centuries. Trully impressive.
Really? What about the crossing of the St. Bernard Pass by the Hitler of the nineteenth century? |
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By JeanValette Comments: 41617, member since Sat Mar 15, 2003On Mon Feb 08, 2010 07:21 PM
 simplefrench wrote:
"Unless the Swiss are going to dig lots of concrete, self-sufficient bunkers to hide their people and soldiers, technology will eventually make their "get 'em at the pass" defense strategy as obsolete as France's "Margerine Line"."
Not certain. They have not been invaded in both WW. I think they have not been invaded since 5 centuries. Trully impressive.
Nevertheless, in WW2,i don't think a real invasion has been tried by germans. Several of their planes were destroyed while they were flying above Suisse(Switzerland).
In the other hand,don't expect them to help others.. It is not their style.They could not care less. They never provided something in both WW i think.
They just protected their borders and received the gold of jews.
They have not only qualities these Emmental eaters. |
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By simplefrench Comments: 60427, member since Wed Mar 19, 2003On Mon Feb 08, 2010 08:16 PM
Edited by simplefrench (60194) on 2010-02-08 20:17:50
"Really? What about the crossing of the St. Bernard Pass by the Hitler of the nineteenth century?"
Well. In fact,he was mediator of the Swiss confederation. Don't know if soldiers stayed there. To verify.
You already said "REALLY?" about Haiti.One has understood baltoc. |
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By HuguesCapet Comments: 6822, member since Tue Sep 27, 2005On Tue Feb 09, 2010 06:28 AM
The strength of the Swiss Army is also to have its own solutions, sometimes original, sometimes good old-fashioned, but always best suited to the job.
Cheap, easy to fix |
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By mamud Comments: 9076, member since Mon May 21, 2007On Tue Feb 09, 2010 06:32 AM
 The Swiss are filthy sodomites and cowards. They have no class! |
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By rasht Comments: 1759, member since Wed Sep 29, 2004On Tue Feb 09, 2010 07:00 AM
Edited by rasht (75048) on 2010-02-09 07:26:33
Je ne crois pas qu'une armée qui ne s'est pas battue depuis des siècles puisse être efficace au combat, même si elle est très bien entraînée et équipée. |
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By parigot Comments: 13078, member since Fri Jul 23, 2004On Tue Feb 09, 2010 07:08 AM
Rasht is right. How do we know if they can fight correctly ? They never tried.
In fact, the best line of defense of the Swiss is their banks ! It will prevent everybody to attack them for a long time. |
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By HuguesCapet Comments: 6822, member since Tue Sep 27, 2005On Tue Feb 09, 2010 07:18 AM
The Swiss, at least the German Swiss, have the right attitude & politics and ultimately, that's what matters in any war.
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By Mouse Comments: 12448, member since Wed May 25, 2005On Tue Feb 09, 2010 07:25 AM
I respect the Swiss airforce. During WW2 they destroyed a US plane because it had entered their air space. They are friends of the yankees.
Well, we also bombed them a couple of times, so maybe they were a bit pissed 
But who can blame us, eh...all you euro tards look the same. |
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By mamud Comments: 9076, member since Mon May 21, 2007On Tue Feb 09, 2010 07:40 AM
Well, we also bombed them a couple of times, so maybe they were a bit pissed
And rightly so! A good part of the Swiss Industry (40% according to an official report) was working for the nazi krauts! In a way, switzerland was a protected area of the german Reich! |
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By rasht Comments: 1759, member since Wed Sep 29, 2004On Tue Feb 09, 2010 07:42 AM
mamud wrote:
the Swiss Industry (40% according to an official report) was working for the nazi krauts! In a way, switzerland was a protected area of the german Reich!
The same can be said for Sweden. In fact these two poor countries of Europe became very rich thanks to WWI and WWII. |
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By HuguesCapet Comments: 6822, member since Tue Sep 27, 2005On Tue Feb 09, 2010 07:45 AM
That's exactly why Switzerland wants to stay NEUTRAL. |
