$657 Million To Be Paid In Response To 10,000 Lawsuits

Mayor: It's 'Fair And Reasonable Resolution To Complex Circumstances'

Mar 12, 2010 4:20 am US/Eastern
Sean Hennessey

NEW YORK (CBS) ¯ Thousands gave it their all during the New York City's darkest hour. They are the police officers, firefighters and others who say they were sickened by World Trade Center dust.

On Thursday night the city agreed to pay more than $657 million to more than 10,000 people.

Six years after the first lawsuit was filed first responders were finally getting the acknowledgment that their efforts on Sept. 11, 2001, to save lives and cleanup after the massive tragedy was hazardous to their health – and that the city shares some of the blame.

For years, first responders have maintained they, too, were victims of 9/11, victims of what they say was a deadly dust that crippled some, while killing others.

People like firefighter John McNamara, who was laid to rest this past August after his family said the toxins of ground zero led to a colon cancer that would kill him.

"Many have died, hundreds have died, over 800 have died," first responder John Feal said.

On Thursday night responders said it's about time, that nine years after the tragedy was enough waiting.

"The facts that were presented to us, and I don't think we have all of them just yet, proves that men and women are sick and dying from their heroic actions," Feal said.

Asbestos is what made them ill:

The WTC had large amounts of asbestos fireproofing which would have necessitated costly removal had they remained standing. The exact amount and distribution of the asbestos in the Towers remains unclear, like other details of the buildings' construction and history, but the evidence suggests that the cost of its removal may have rivaled the value of the buildings themselves

Here is my own video questioning the collapse, its not that good since i spent most time trying to edit all the video clips in premier pro. besides i was limited by the fact that videos can only last 10 minutes and has to be less than 2 gb:

thermite?



That's as far as I got watching your video.

How did it get there?

spEWarmy believes Sept. 11 was an inside job, Pres. Bush pulled the legs out from under building 11 and Katrina was the Bush weather machine in action.....


Am I correct?

Its about time something Good may have happened for the first responders.

Absolutely LMAO
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It seems the insider herds are as useful to America's enemies as can be. I "had" a friend who subscribed to the "insider" insanity. Ended our friendship after 15 years, just walked away. Fuck the idiot.

I am glad the "First Responders" who sacrificed so much will get a level of compensation.

God Bless Our Firemen, Police, and Emergency Workers.

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euarmy,

The jets may have taken out steel structural supports. The steel structural supports were further weakened by intense heat and impact / stress. Floors above the fire were now improperly supported. The steel on lower floors couldn't handle the improperly distributed weight of multiple floors above.

This thread is about the people who were affected by this senseless act of terrorism.

WTF. They shouldn't get SHIT. it's part of their friggin job.



What a bunch of fucking crybaby bitches!!!!

WTC Captive Insurance Co. are the biggest scumbags on the planet.

Its a very small office downtown, run by three lawyers. I worked there for about two weeks.

Christine LaSala, the head of this sleezy operation, is the epitome of a low-life, corrupt dirtbag. The other two clowns were just nasty, horrible people.

People like them really make it understandable why people hate lawyers.

Their mission was essentially not to pay out any of the money they were sitting on to claimants.

No wonder they've spent over $200 million in legal fees before they came to this settlement.

Scumbags.

booyaah wrote:

WTF. They shouldn't get SHIT. it's part of their friggin job.



What a bunch of fucking crybaby bitches!!!!

I agree. Typical public employees.

We paid them for years. Gave them lifetime benefits.

Then when they are called to perform their duty, the scene was dangerous and they demand even more compensation.

Thank you public employee unions. You do so much to make America a better place.

Let's see. Teachers unions - our kids rank 19th in the world.

Border Patrol union - 20 million, 1/3 of a forgeign country allowed in to steal our jobs.

Public safety unions. Extra lawsuits for performing job.

1 trillion in borrowed debt to prop up public employees this year.

Meanwhile those who pay for it slip further behind.


Yeah....they "deserved" it

I have very little sympathy here for this...

You have a number of buildings that collapsed with dust and particles being kicked up during and after the event and your common sense and personal responsibility didn't kick in enough to use a dust mask?

I can understand and have sympathy for people that were working with chemicals or in areas where a respirator was need.

But you know...you can say no. Really...it's ok.

a lot of dust

the debris cloud blew over to Brooklyn and hung
thank god i was living in the burg at the time and it blew south east

20 bucks...did anyone see all that dust and debris and think it was safe to be in without a respirator?

These people are patriotic Americans. They deserve respect.

Let's see. Teachers unions - our kids rank 19th in the world.

I would imagine that a number of the 18 countries ahead of us also have unions.

Mouse wrote:

I have very little sympathy here for this...

You have a number of buildings that collapsed with dust and particles being kicked up during and after the event and your common sense and personal responsibility didn't kick in enough to use a dust mask?

I can understand and have sympathy for people that were working with chemicals or in areas where a respirator was need.

But you know...you can say no. Really...it's ok.

I'm sorry, are you saying in your last sentence that the emergency workers could have said 'no' to helping with the disaster relief effort because they didn't have the proper equipment?

Were you a police officer and were you from New Orleans?

These people are patriotic Americans. They deserve respect.

yes they do and they have mine but what they are saying is they wouldn't have helped if they thought they woulda got sick...

Silas wrote:

Mouse wrote:

I have very little sympathy here for this...

You have a number of buildings that collapsed with dust and particles being kicked up during and after the event and your common sense and personal responsibility didn't kick in enough to use a dust mask?

I can understand and have sympathy for people that were working with chemicals or in areas where a respirator was need.

But you know...you can say no. Really...it's ok.

I'm sorry, are you saying in your last sentence that the emergency workers could have said 'no' to helping with the disaster relief effort because they didn't have the proper equipment?

That is exactly what I am saying...and the complaints are not about only about the initial response, they are about the clean up, a minimal amount of exposure during the first few hours is not going to cripple you for life, it is the repetitive exposure that raises the risk.

You don't send firefighters into a chemical fire without adequate equipment. You don't send EMT's into a situation where their safety is threatened.

The have a right to refuse or to wait until safety requirements are met. They do this often.

If they ignore that and press ahead, then they have no merit to later say the government is responsible for that and I don't mind donating to help them out for their bravery...but filing a lawsuit and shifting the responsibility for their own actions is a bit too much.

Were you a police officer and were you from New Orleans?

Katrina and New Orleans is a piss poor example on your part.

There were no toxic fumes or particles to contend with like on 9/11...raw sewage, downed lines and the like, ya sure.

But, get in a boat, don't touch the lines. Simple, it's a dangerous job.

In the end they ran away because of morale and the corrupt government in the City. It is after all Louisiana. I imagine their hiring practices are on par with DC's. Which is...thug life in blue.

Father is retired District of Columbia Metropolitan police force and his side of the family is made up of LEO.

Not that I see what any of that has to do with it.

Also I think some people miss the point I am trying to make.

This has nothing to do with compensating them and taking care of them. I think we should so separate that from the argument and what you are left with is:

They damn well knew the risks of what they were doing, they take risks everyday.

I find it cowardly to sue the government because they feel the the government is partly or wholly responsible.

They know that is a bullshit line...and I expect better from them.

They aren't children, they are grown adults.

You don't send firefighters into a chemical fire without adequate equipment.

We're not talking about a factory/industrial fire. This was when thousands of people were still trapped in an office building.

When the first tower fell and there was asbestos flying around, I would not expect the first responders to wait until they can get some gas masks on before entering the second tower.

To me, that sounds very 'unionish'.

Anyways, I find your response to be shocking. Actually, I find it to be beyond words for me. I can't imagine what the world would be like for every time people needed saving and the rescuers said, 'shucks, I don't have the proper gloves to dig through the rubble and rescue the people trapped underneath'.

In all seriousness though, I think I read that you're into computers. That was probably a good career choice for you.

I can't imagine you being a teacher and having to wait until you had latex gloves on before you could help a student bleeding to death on the pavement, or something like that.

Silas wrote:

You don't send firefighters into a chemical fire without adequate equipment.

We're not talking about a factory/industrial fire. This was when thousands of people were still trapped in an office building.

When the first tower fell and there was asbestos flying around, I would not expect the first responders to wait until they can get some gas masks on before entering the second tower.

To me, that sounds very 'unionish'.

Anyways, I find your response to be shocking. Actually, I find it to be beyond words for me. I can't imagine what the world would be like for every time people needed saving and the rescuers said, 'shucks, I don't have the proper gloves to dig through the rubble and rescue the people trapped underneath'.

In all seriousness though, I think I read that you're into computers. That was probably a good career choice for you.

I can't imagine you being a teacher and having to wait until you had latex gloves on before you could help a student bleeding to death on the pavement, or something like that.

And the safety of the first responders is in their own hands and in the hands of their commanders...

I find it appalling that you would say damn all the consequences, lets add to the body count.

And if you read what I posted, I said clearly that it is irresponsible of them to blame someone else, when they knew of the dangers.

If I rush of into a fire to save lives, should I sue the government and claim they are responsible for my burns?

Sounds like you are trending to the left, where it is always someone else's responsibility for your actions.

Further...it is acts like these lawsuits that will force the government to make them stop and wait for fear of a lawsuit.

Silas wrote:

You don't send firefighters into a chemical fire without adequate equipment.

We're not talking about a factory/industrial fire. This was when thousands of people were still trapped in an office building.

When the first tower fell and there was asbestos flying around, I would not expect the first responders to wait until they can get some gas masks on before entering the second tower.

To me, that sounds very 'unionish'.

Anyways, I find your response to be shocking. Actually, I find it to be beyond words for me. I can't imagine what the world would be like for every time people needed saving and the rescuers said, 'shucks, I don't have the proper gloves to dig through the rubble and rescue the people trapped underneath'.

In all seriousness though, I think I read that you're into computers. That was probably a good career choice for you.

I can't imagine you being a teacher and having to wait until you had latex gloves on before you could help a student bleeding to death on the pavement, or something like that.

So it's your judgment that the taxpayers owe hundreds of millions in compensation to the people who'd they'd been paying to do that job all along?

Sounds good. I assume you think our volunteer soldiers should have the right to sue for on the job injury as well?

How about the citizens of NYC? They were exposed. The government didn't prevent it. They have a case as well?

I find it shocking that you think we should now pay extra to emergency personnel if they're actually asked to do the job they volunteered to do.

booyaah wrote:

WTF. They shouldn't get SHIT. it's part of their friggin job.



What a bunch of fucking crybaby bitches!!!!

Yeh I knew this guy once he was slacking off at work and cut off the tip of his finger. Man he tried to take the company for everything it was worth ...

What was his name ????
www.fuckfrance.com . . .

Sounds good. I assume you think our volunteer soldiers should have the right to sue for on the job injury as well?

Uhm, no. But I also don't think that soldiers can say 'fuck it, I'm not rescuing those people, I don't have the proper combat boots on'.

In fact, where in my post to Mouse did I mention anything about lawsuits, LoL?

I find it shocking that you think we should now pay extra to emergency personnel if they're actually asked to do the job they volunteered to do.

And I said/implied this, where?

Please, go ahead and re-post and highlight the parts that gave you this impression.

Come on asswipe, you can do it.