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Belgian coach crash in Swiss tunnel kills 28 - 12 year old bairns only God knows why (karma: 3)  en>fr fr>en
By Dewi_Sant Comments: 23420, member since Wed Jul 06, 2005
On Wed Mar 14, 2012 06:51 AM
At least 28 people - including 22 children - have been killed in a coach crash in a tunnel in Switzerland. Another 24 children were injured in the crash near Sierre, in the canton of Valais, close to the border with Italy. The coach, carrying 52 people back to the Belgian towns of Lommel and Heverlee following a skiing trip, struck a wall in the tunnel head-on late on Tuesday. it does not seem like a tired driver is at fault as they had not long set out - bus had two drivers - 100km speed limit - very little traffic at the time -

Belgian PM Elio Di Rupo said it was "a tragic day for all of Belgium".
'Incomprehensible'

Image hotlink - 'http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b263/dewi123sant/_59058458_014252814-1.jpg'
the green painted section is what the bus hit

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The bus crashed shortly after 21:00 (20:00 GMT) on Tuesday.

In Brussels, the Belgian foreign ministry said most of the children were aged around 12, and the bus was one of three hired by a Christian group. The other two reached Belgium safely.

Scene of crash, Switzerland, 14 March 2012 The coach is removed from the crash scene. It appears to have travelled along the right hand wall of the tunnel and collided head-on with the concrete wall (right) that provides emergency access

The children had spent a week skiing in Val d'Anniviers in the Swiss Alps.

Those on board the bus that crashed were from 't Stekske primary school in Lommel, close to the Dutch border, and from Sint Lambertusschool in Heverlee, near Leuven, with Belgian media saying the numbers were roughly even.

Eight of the children involved are Dutch, the Dutch foreign ministry said, with all but one of them living in Belgium.

Belgian Transport Minister Melchior Wathelet said the company that ran the coach, Toptours, had "an excellent reputation".

He said: "The drivers had arrived the night before and had rested during the day before departure. It seems that the law on driving and rest periods has been respected."

Both of the coach's drivers were among the dead.

Distraught relatives have been arriving at the schools in Belgium, with identification of the dead and injured still not complete.

Andre Joseph Leonard, the archbishop of Belgium, who is in Heverlee, told Associated Press: "There is this terrible fear and uncertainty. There are about eight about whom we don't know what happened, leaving their parents in terrible fear."

Swiss prosecutor Olivier Elsig told a news conference the bus was new, or nearly new, and was equipped with safety belts.

In a tunnel where the speed limit is 100km/h (62 mph), Mr Elsig said the bus collided with the right-hand wall and then hit, head-on, a concrete wall that forms part of an emergency access section. An investigation is under way.

More than 200 people and eight helicopters were involved in the rescue operation.

Some of the injured were flown by helicopters to hospitals in Lausanne, Bern and other Swiss cities.
Man holding flowers in Heverlee, Belgium, 14 Mar 2012 The town of Heverlee is trying to come to terms with the tragedy

Swiss journalist Ruth Seeholzer told the BBC that the two-lane tunnel was not busy with traffic when the accident happened and driving conditions were normal.

The Belgian royal family has issued statements expressing deep shock at the tragedy.

Belgian Foreign Minister Didier Reynders said: "It is incomprehensible. There were three buses and only one was in an accident, without any contact with another vehicle."

A helpline for families has been set up, and many relatives are expected to arrive in Switzerland later.

Belgium has made two aircraft available to take them to the country.

Belgium's ambassador to Switzerland, Jan Luykx, has already travelled to the crash site.

He said: "This tragedy will hit the whole of Belgium. The magnitude of the accident is difficult to take in. For the moment I am concentrating on the practical aspects. The emotional side will come when we meet the families."

European Commission president Jose Manuel Barroso sent his "sincere condolences and deepest sympathy" to the victims' relatives.

The European Parliament was to observe a minute's silence at noon.

The head of the Valais region, Jacques Melly, also expressed his deep sadness at the accident and praised the rescuers for their work in "extremely difficult conditions".

21 Replies to Belgian coach crash in Swiss tunnel kills 28 - 12 year old bairns only God knows why

re: Belgian coach crash in Swiss tunnel kills 28 - 12 year old bairns only God knows why (karma: 3)  en>fr fr>en
By Mournblade Comments: 1010, member since Sat Oct 24, 2009
On Wed Mar 14, 2012 07:08 AM



:D
re: Belgian coach crash in Swiss tunnel kills 28 - 12 year old bairns only God knows why (karma: 3)  en>fr fr>en
By I_brake_4_camels Comments: 13893, member since Thu Feb 13, 2003
On Wed Mar 14, 2012 08:31 AM
That is just terrible. My thoughts are with the families of these little ones.
re: Belgian coach crash in Swiss tunnel kills 28 - 12 year old bairns only God knows why en>fr fr>en
By Dewi_Sant Comments: 23420, member since Wed Jul 06, 2005
On Wed Mar 14, 2012 08:49 AM
Mournblade wrote:

:D


if you are referring 2 my use of 'bairn' then that is a Scots word not Cymraeg
re: Belgian coach crash in Swiss tunnel kills 28 - 12 year old bairns only God knows why en>fr fr>en
By Mournblade Comments: 1010, member since Sat Oct 24, 2009
On Wed Mar 14, 2012 08:53 AM
Dewi_Sant wrote:

Mournblade wrote:

:D


if you are referring 2 my use of 'bairn' then that is a Scots word not Cymraeg
Yeah, I know.

I was just looking for an excuse to post that.
:D
Swiss tunnel kills 28 (karma: 6)  en>fr fr>en
By NOZZLE Comments: 15121, member since Mon Mar 07, 2005
On Wed Mar 14, 2012 09:16 AM
Fixed the subjec line for you.

They said it was incomprehensible?

Who the fuck designed a tunnel with a goddam wall facing traffic in it?

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re: Belgian coach crash in Swiss tunnel kills 28 - 12 year old bairns only God knows why en>fr fr>en
By lookanlearn Comments: 9965, member since Sun Jun 10, 2007
On Wed Mar 14, 2012 09:44 AM



I_brake_4_camels wrote:

That is just terrible. My thoughts are with the families of these little ones.


Fat lot of good it will do.
re: Belgian coach crash in Swiss tunnel kills 28 - 12 year old bairns only God knows why (karma: 1)  en>fr fr>en
By pippin Comments: 9782, member since Mon Jan 19, 2009
On Wed Mar 14, 2012 12:18 PM
NOZZLE wrote:

Fixed the subjec line for you.

They said it was incomprehensible?

Who the fuck designed a tunnel with a goddam wall facing traffic in it?

Image hotlink - 'http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/59058000/jpg/_59058458_014252814-1.jpg'
Whose idea wos it to paint it fucking green: no reflectors and no fucking Armco. The authorities for the tunnel should be made responsible.
re: Belgian coach crash in Swiss tunnel kills 28 - 12 year old bairns only God knows why en>fr fr>en
By pippin Comments: 9782, member since Mon Jan 19, 2009
On Wed Mar 14, 2012 12:20 PM
Dewi_Sant wrote:

Mournblade wrote:

:D


if you are referring 2 my use of 'bairn' then that is a Scots word not Cymraeg
:] Geordie too.
re: Belgian coach crash in Swiss tunnel kills 28 - 12 year old bairns only God knows why en>fr fr>en
By SevenSeventeen Comments: 15138, member since Tue Apr 22, 2003
On Wed Mar 14, 2012 12:36 PM
I have driven that tunnel - you would have to be a complete retard to wall fuck there. It's mostly a straight shot.

Than again we are talking Belgians here :(
re: Belgian coach crash in Swiss tunnel kills 28 - 12 year old bairns only God knows why en>fr fr>en
By Klausbarbie Comments: 3094, member since Tue Mar 22, 2005
On Wed Mar 14, 2012 01:23 PM
Edited by Klausbarbie (76518) on 2012-03-14 13:23:56
I don't remember ever seeing any posted tunnel speed limit exceeding 80 kmh, in Switzerland
re: Belgian coach crash in Swiss tunnel kills 28 - 12 year old bairns only God knows why en>fr fr>en
By SevenSeventeen Comments: 15138, member since Tue Apr 22, 2003
On Wed Mar 14, 2012 01:36 PM
This is Gran San Bernardo right?
re: Belgian coach crash in Swiss tunnel kills 28 - 12 year old bairns only God knows why (karma: 1)  en>fr fr>en
By Surrender_Monkey Comments: 8337, member since Mon Apr 26, 2004
On Wed Mar 14, 2012 02:47 PM
There should at least been a guard railing just before that outcropping of green painted wall there.
re: Belgian coach crash in Swiss tunnel kills 28 - 12 year old bairns only God knows why en>fr fr>en
By Bishopabc Comments: 8968, member since Fri May 27, 2005
On Wed Mar 14, 2012 11:51 PM
Obviously the Switz don't do tunnels, unless buses full of little children can splatter in them !!! So Sad
re: Belgian coach crash in Swiss tunnel kills 28 - 12 year old bairns only God knows why en>fr fr>en
By tom25 Comments: 5189, member since Thu May 01, 2003
On Thu Mar 15, 2012 12:29 AM
Seems the moral of the story is to avoid European tunnels. You got princess Diana and now this. Really sad.
re: Belgian coach crash in Swiss tunnel kills 28 - 12 year old bairns only God knows why en>fr fr>en
By bigvernmember has saluted, click to view salute photos Comments: 7336, member since Sun Jul 24, 2005
On Thu Mar 15, 2012 08:27 AM
SevenSeventeen wrote:

I have driven that tunnel - you would have to be a complete retard to wall fuck there. It's mostly a straight shot.

Than again we are talking Belgians here :(


Prick .

There is a sharp curve , clearly seen in the photo . The maximum speed allowed is 60kmh , the police have stated the driver was not speeding . So you have driven this tunnel have you ? I think not , fuckstain .
re: Belgian coach crash in Swiss tunnel kills 28 - 12 year old bairns only God knows why en>fr fr>en
By Mournblade Comments: 1010, member since Sat Oct 24, 2009
On Thu Mar 15, 2012 12:26 PM
Swiss coach crash driver 'was putting on a DVD'

The driver of the coach which crashed into a tunnel wall killing 22 children and six adults was trying to put a DVD film on seconds before impact, it has been claimed.

www.telegraph.co.uk . . .
re: Belgian coach crash in Swiss tunnel kills 28 - 12 year old bairns only God knows why en>fr fr>en
By Klausbarbie Comments: 3094, member since Tue Mar 22, 2005
On Thu Mar 15, 2012 12:43 PM
Edited by Klausbarbie (76518) on 2012-03-15 12:44:54
Surrender_Monkey wrote:

There should at least been a guard railing just before that outcropping of green painted wall there.
That's one of the last tunnels built with an outcropping as an escape route. They will more than likely install guard rails around it.
When the bus lost control, it first swerved left before swerving back right again. The kids were buckled in and died of injuries sustained as the seats were ripped out of their anchorage upon impact. If the bus driver was instinctively applying brakes, the bus should have slowed down enough for the seats to have remained in place. If the bus was a Van Hool product, I could imagine that the seats would not keep intact
mournblade wrote:

...The driver of the coach which crashed into a tunnel wall killing 22 children and six adults was trying to put a DVD film on seconds before impact, it has been claimed...
Maybe, the bus driver was simply obeying a suggestion to violently swing the steering wheel back and forth which was mysteriously whipered into his ear from a sinister paranormal source
re: Belgian coach crash in Swiss tunnel kills 28 - 12 year old bairns only God knows why en>fr fr>en
By Klausbarbie Comments: 3094, member since Tue Mar 22, 2005
On Fri Mar 16, 2012 05:55 AM
Edited by Klausbarbie (76518) on 2012-03-16 06:03:56



I was right. The seats of a Mercedes bus have never been known to dislodge at such low speeds:

www.tagesschau.sf.tv . . .

wrote:

...Es handelte sich um einen Bus der Marke Van Hool, Modell T916 Altano, Baujahr 2002...


This bus was produced in Belgium:

www.autoevolution.com . . .

wrote:

...Founded in 1947 by Bernard Van Hool, the company is located at Koningshooikt, near the city of Lier, Belgium...


Is it any wonder?

re: Belgian coach crash in Swiss tunnel kills 28 - 12 year old bairns only God knows why en>fr fr>en
By bloodhoundmember has saluted, click to view salute photos Comments: 6213, member since Thu Jan 05, 2006
On Sun Mar 18, 2012 08:21 AM
This was a tragic accident that effected all of Europe, anyone with a child is also hurting for the parents of the lost children. I am curious as to why it happened, too many rumors flying now, like the driver was changing a cd, a heart attack, fell asleep, bla, bla, bla. RIP!
re: Belgian coach crash in Swiss tunnel kills 28 - 12 year old bairns only God knows why en>fr fr>en
By lookanlearn Comments: 9965, member since Sun Jun 10, 2007
On Sun Mar 18, 2012 08:23 AM
Dead kids always makes us feel that war is worthwhile.
re: Belgian coach crash in Swiss tunnel kills 28 - 12 year old bairns only God knows why en>fr fr>en
By Klausbarbie Comments: 3094, member since Tue Mar 22, 2005
On Sun Mar 18, 2012 04:04 PM
Edited by Klausbarbie (76518) on 2012-03-18 16:04:57
bloodhound wrote:

...I am curious as to why it happened, too many rumors flying now...
Hitting that embankment square on was indeed a fluke. One would more likely win the lottery or get struck by lightning. Especially, when such a bus (the equivalent to an Airbus Air France on wheels) was chosen.
I still think a sinister entity took over that bus driver's decision making process and caused the well-timed incident.
You people might think it over, the next time you charter a flight, now that you mentioned flying

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