Edited by Fearless_Leader (75698) on 2012-06-09 09:51:53
Saw it yesterday. Nearly every character in the movie is an absolute dumbfuck and they are all very 2 dimensional, thanks to the crap script which has been "lindlehof'd" with gigantic plot holes and cringe-worthy dialog.. Alien creatures are fucking stupid out of a lovecraft book. Music is inappropriate. Edited with a rusty chainsaw; the final 2 hour movie is missing about 45 minutes of information that must be on the cutting room floor. It's basically a (slightly) scary star trek episode, though I think women will find it more horrifying than men, who will just sort of laugh at BabySquidMonster. Ridley Scott is getting senile, though it is visually excellent as you would expect and at least 100 trillion times better than fucking avatar or any of the alien sequels, including the one that hack james cameron made. The ending is fucking retarded. This movie was made solely to set up sequels.
Verdict: meh
addendum: if the Engineers' DNA is identical to humans then why the fuck don't they look exactly like us? Hm
Final thought: if Roger Ebert gives a 4 star rave, whatever it is must suck
I've seen it.
It's a fairly good movie, somewhat mystical and crepuscular. The film raises questions that are not answered, which meets my likings but can irritate people who like everything to be explained.
A good SciFi flick is rare enough to deserve the sight. And this one's definitely a good SciFi flick.
^ I haven't seen the movie, so I have to ask: do aliens from alien/aliens make any appearance in the movie? what is the connection to the squid monster and oil substance to the alien universe?
Ya, I've read some reviews mentioning the dumb assed characters.
Sorta like yer typical horror flick...oh my, serial killer on the loose...well I won't take a weapon with me, and I think everyone should split up and go by themselves, into dark hard to maneuver places...you know just to look around or see what that noise was.
Guess I'll wait for the bluray at the local video store
/Haven't actually been to a movie theater since 2002.
I think this flick will grow on me (pun intended) as the time goes by and the inevitable sequel appears and ties up some loose ends...I think back to when I saw Starship Troopers...at the time I couldn't believe how corny and stupid the dialog was. Now I have grown to like that movie for what it truly is...a comedy satire
I think this flick will grow on me (pun intended) as the time goes by and the inevitable sequel appears and ties up some loose ends...I think back to when I saw Starship Troopers...at the time I couldn't believe how corny and stupid the dialog was. Now I have grown to like that movie for what it truly is...a comedy satire
Lutz...Ok, but I have to question why you didn't know it was a comedy to begin with
I think this flick will grow on me (pun intended) as the time goes by and the inevitable sequel appears and ties up some loose ends...I think back to when I saw Starship Troopers...at the time I couldn't believe how corny and stupid the dialog was. Now I have grown to like that movie for what it truly is...a comedy satire
You didn't get Starship troopers? You really are a humorless, angry, self important dipstick. Bet you're a load of fun IRL.
re: Prometheusen>frfr>en By LTKilling Comments: 9957, member since Sun Aug 14, 2005
On Sat Jun 09, 2012 10:23 AM
Fearless_Leader wrote:
I think this flick will grow on me (pun intended) as the time goes by and the inevitable sequel appears and ties up some loose ends...I think back to when I saw Starship Troopers...at the time I couldn't believe how corny and stupid the dialog was. Now I have grown to like that movie for what it truly is...a comedy satire
I think this flick will grow on me (pun intended) as the time goes by and the inevitable sequel appears and ties up some loose ends...I think back to when I saw Starship Troopers...at the time I couldn't believe how corny and stupid the dialog was. Now I have grown to like that movie for what it truly is...a comedy satire
Lutz...Ok, but I have to question why you didn't know it was a comedy to begin with
Love Starship troopers
Any comedy and satire in Starship Troopers was completely unintentional. Director Paul Verhoeven has never forgiven the US for driving his beloved Nazis out of Holland before Stalin could, so when he read Heinlein's book he decided to make the movie a mockery of what Heinlein wrote, venting all his liberal spleen into it to twist the Terran Confederation into a sort of inept Fourth Reich. But like Robocop before it, his hysterical hatred of the subject was so over the top audiences mistook what he intended to be a blistering polemic against the US and Western Civilization in general as comedy and satire. Robocop was better cast, so unlike Starship Troopers it became a cult classic....but in the end the best way to give Verhoeven the finger is by not getting what his movies were "about".
I think this flick will grow on me (pun intended) as the time goes by and the inevitable sequel appears and ties up some loose ends...I think back to when I saw Starship Troopers...at the time I couldn't believe how corny and stupid the dialog was. Now I have grown to like that movie for what it truly is...a comedy satire
Lutz...Ok, but I have to question why you didn't know it was a comedy to begin with
Love Starship troopers
Any comedy and satire in Starship Troopers was completely unintentional. Director Paul Verhoeven has never forgiven the US for driving his beloved Nazis out of Holland before Stalin could, so when he read Heinlein's book he decided to make the movie a mockery of what Heinlein wrote, venting all his liberal spleen into it to twist the Terran Confederation into a sort of inept Fourth Reich. But like Robocop before it, his hysterical hatred of the subject was so over the top audiences mistook what he intended to be a blistering polemic against the US and Western Civilization in general as comedy and satire. Robocop was better cast, so unlike Starship Troopers it became a cult classic....but in the end the best way to give Verhoeven the finger is by not getting what his movies were "about".
At the time I realized it was satire, but I think I interpreted it correctly even then. As you noted, he's mocking the bravado of state sponsored war.
That said, it is hilarious as an "over the top" war movie and I love the visuals.. they still hold up and it's been what... 15 years?
I think this flick will grow on me (pun intended) as the time goes by and the inevitable sequel appears and ties up some loose ends...I think back to when I saw Starship Troopers...at the time I couldn't believe how corny and stupid the dialog was. Now I have grown to like that movie for what it truly is...a comedy satire
Lutz...Ok, but I have to question why you didn't know it was a comedy to begin with
Love Starship troopers
Any comedy and satire in Starship Troopers was completely unintentional. Director Paul Verhoeven has never forgiven the US for driving his beloved Nazis out of Holland before Stalin could, so when he read Heinlein's book he decided to make the movie a mockery of what Heinlein wrote, venting all his liberal spleen into it to twist the Terran Confederation into a sort of inept Fourth Reich. But like Robocop before it, his hysterical hatred of the subject was so over the top audiences mistook what he intended to be a blistering polemic against the US and Western Civilization in general as comedy and satire. Robocop was better cast, so unlike Starship Troopers it became a cult classic....but in the end the best way to give Verhoeven the finger is by not getting what his movies were "about".
At the time I realized it was satire, but I think I interpreted it correctly even then. As you noted, he's mocking the bravado of state sponsored war.
That said, it is hilarious as an "over the top" war movie and I love the visuals.. they still hold up and it's been what... 15 years?
The visuals were good, but other than that it's only slightly better than the crap movies on the SciFi network. I would have liked to see a straight up adaptation of the book. The Terran Confederation in the book was a liberal's nightmare. The gov't didn't even take liberals seriously enough to bother persecuting them....they were simply ignored and allowed to throw thier temper tantrums in vain, but if they started shit they were dealt with as common criminals and not even taken seriously enough to be considered dissidents. To be that powerless is every liberal's worst fear....hence Verhoeven's movie adaptation.
I would have liked to see the power armor and meteoric assaults from space by highly trained soldiers in the book as opposed to a bunch of cannon fodder dumped on a planet and left to fend for themselves like they showed in the movie.
Edited by breizheals (77466) on 2012-06-09 22:15:39
Tiberius wrote:
geebart wrote:
At the time I realized it was satire, but I think I interpreted it correctly even then. As you noted, he's mocking the bravado of state sponsored war.
That said, it is hilarious as an "over the top" war movie and I love the visuals.. they still hold up and it's been what... 15 years?
The visuals were good, but other than that it's only slightly better than the crap movies on the SciFi network. I would have liked to see a straight up adaptation of the book. The Terran Confederation in the book was a liberal's nightmare. The gov't didn't even take liberals seriously enough to bother persecuting them....they were simply ignored and allowed to throw thier temper tantrums in vain, but if they started shit they were dealt with as common criminals and not even taken seriously enough to be considered dissidents. To be that powerless is every liberal's worst fear....hence Verhoeven's movie adaptation.
I would have liked to see the power armor and meteoric assaults from space by highly trained soldiers in the book as opposed to a bunch of cannon fodder dumped on a planet and left to fend for themselves like they showed in the movie.
You really missed the point of this movie. The simple fact you wrote that comedy and satire were unintentional in this movie is just beyond me. It's nothing but a satire! I was maybe 15 when I saw it at the theater and we all got it! What's wrong with you people? Are you so brainwashed with the usual patriotic bravado displayed in your blockbusters that you cannot even recognize a satire? This is priceless!
Haven't actually been to a movie theater since 2002.
The only movie I've seen recently that was worth a fuck was True Grit. Great movie! My kids could watch it. The ast movie this komrade saw in theater was that steaming pile of remake called 'The Girl with The Dragon Tattoo' via Holley-Would. Holy cow, what happened? Talk about a dumbed down version of something looking to sell TEErent the midget Rezner products... Anyhow, I'll hafta to poach a copy of Prometheus and see for myself.
re: Prometheusen>frfr>en By Mouse Comments: 21429, member since Wed May 25, 2005
On Sat Jun 09, 2012 11:14 PM
frankthekulak wrote:
komrade Mouse wrote:
Haven't actually been to a movie theater since 2002.
The only movie I've seen recently that was worth a fuck was True Grit. Great movie! My kids could watch it. The ast movie this komrade saw in theater was that steaming pile of remake called 'The Girl with The Dragon Tattoo' via Holley-Would. Holy cow, what happened? Talk about a dumbed down version of something looking to sell TEErent the midget Rezner products... Anyhow, I'll hafta to poach a copy of Prometheus and see for myself.
Ya was working for a small start up software security firm and the boss decided it was movie and bar time
Unfortunately the movie they selected was 'The Sum of All Fears'...but at least I got to see a Baltimore stadium get blown up *lol* too bad it wasn't a Baltimore stadium.
I've watched both the foreign and the US versions of the girl with the dragoon baboon...and it was an utter snooze fest...kept skipping through them waiting for the 'it gets better part'...
Saw it yesterday. Nearly every character in the movie is an absolute dumbfuck and they are all very 2 dimensional, thanks to the crap script which has been "lindlehof'd" with gigantic plot holes and cringe-worthy dialog.. Alien creatures are fucking stupid out of a lovecraft book. Music is inappropriate. Edited with a rusty chainsaw; the final 2 hour movie is missing about 45 minutes of information that must be on the cutting room floor. It's basically a (slightly) scary star trek episode, though I think women will find it more horrifying than men, who will just sort of laugh at BabySquidMonster. Ridley Scott is getting senile, though it is visually excellent as you would expect and at least 100 trillion times better than fucking avatar or any of the alien sequels, including the one that hack james cameron made. The ending is fucking retarded. This movie was made solely to set up sequels.
Verdict: meh
addendum: if the Engineers' DNA is identical to humans then why the fuck don't they look exactly like us? Hm
Final thought: if Roger Ebert gives a 4 star rave, whatever it is must suck
So, those details set apart, did you enjoy the movie?
re: Prometheusen>frfr>en By ReBourne Comments: 8907, member since Sat Oct 24, 2009
On Sun Jun 10, 2012 12:06 AM
"Battleship 2012" was also pissed on by the experts, just like "Starship Troopers" and in the end Troopers made a mint.
Look up "Starship Troopers" on wiki-p. Some dumb fuck jooo accuses Troopers of being bigoted against BUGS. Hard to believe but true. Insufferably stupid bastard.
Bottom line: See it for yourself and decide for yourself if you like it. Trusting some movie faggot's opinion is just stupid.
You really missed the point of this movie. The simple fact you wrote that comedy and satire were unintentional in this movie is just beyond me. It's nothing but a satire! I was maybe 15 when I saw it at the theater and we all got it! What's wrong with you people? Are you so brainwashed with the usual patriotic bravado displayed in your blockbusters that you cannot even recognize a satire? This is priceless!
Oh I got the point....it's the same point he's made in most of his better known flicks...that the US is a fascist-corporate state. At least with Robocop and Total Recall he used decent actors who made the movie worth watching in spite of the "message". We'll never see a Starship Troopers movie that has any fidelity to the book because the world it portrays offends liberals sense of self-importance.
re: Prometheusen>frfr>en By Cazeilles Comments: 14902, member since Wed Apr 09, 2003
On Sun Jun 10, 2012 02:20 AM
Tiberius wrote:
breizheals wrote:
You really missed the point of this movie. The simple fact you wrote that comedy and satire were unintentional in this movie is just beyond me. It's nothing but a satire! I was maybe 15 when I saw it at the theater and we all got it! What's wrong with you people? Are you so brainwashed with the usual patriotic bravado displayed in your blockbusters that you cannot even recognize a satire? This is priceless!
Oh I got the point....it's the same point he's made in most of his better known flicks...that the US is a fascist-corporate state. At least with Robocop and Total Recall he used decent actors who made the movie worth watching in spite of the "message". We'll never see a Starship Troopers movie that has any fidelity to the book because the world it portrays offends liberals sense of self-importance.
A satire is about irony. These movies are not moralists or polemics.
Thanks to this thread, I've been proven American are genetically predisposed to be dumb.
re: Prometheusen>frfr>en By Tiberius Comments: 10747, member since Tue Feb 11, 2003
On Sun Jun 10, 2012 02:37 AM
Cazeilles wrote:
A satire is about irony. These movies are not moralists or polemics.
They were shitty polemics, you mean. Well, maybe Total Recall wasn't, but Robocop and Starship Troopers are how see sees America. Verhoeven did such a shitty job people thought it was supposed to be funny....not unlike "Springtime for Hitler" in The Producers.
re: Prometheusen>frfr>en By Cazeilles Comments: 14902, member since Wed Apr 09, 2003
On Sun Jun 10, 2012 02:48 AM
Tiberius wrote:
Cazeilles wrote:
A satire is about irony. These movies are not moralists or polemics.
They were shitty polemics, you mean. Well, maybe Total Recall wasn't, but Robocop and Starship Troopers are how see sees America. Verhoeven did such a shitty job people thought it was supposed to be funny....not unlike "Springtime for Hitler" in The Producers.
You are such a touchy pussy... No wonder why the average Amercican male is childish.