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Elderly patients 'helped to die to free up beds' (karma: 2)  en>fr fr>en
By PopsFrost Comments: 12271, member since Mon Jan 21, 2008
On Thu Jun 21, 2012 11:37 AM
NHS hospitals are using end-of-life care to help elderly patients to die because they are difficult to look after and take up valuable beds

The Liverpool Care Pathway (LCP) is used in hospitals for patients who are terminally ill or are expected to die imminently. Under the pathway, doctors can withdraw treatment, food and water while patients are heavily sedated.

Almost a third of patients - 130,000 - who die in hospital or under NHS care a year are on the LCP.

Professor Pullicino said he believed the LCP was being used as an "assisted death pathway" with patients placed on the LCP without clear evidence

The senior consultant at East Kent Hospitals told the Royal Society of Medicine he had personally intervened to have a 71-year-old man taken off the LCP and be treated successfully, despite claims he was expected to die within hours or days. He had arrived in hospital with pneumonia and epilepsy.

"I removed the patient from the LCP despite significant resistance," he said. "His seizures came under control and four weeks later he was discharged home to his family.

"Very likely many elderly patients who could live substantially longer are being killed by the LCP. Patients are frequently put on the pathway without a proper analysis of their condition," he added.


Disoriented? Having trouble swallowing medication? That's all it takes for a death sentence in the the UK's NHS. Sure, if you can overcome denial of food, water and complete sedation, your life might be spared.

Of course, this story doesn't appear on ANY of the American MSM because it might cause the sheeple to question the wisdom of ObamaCare.

15 Replies to Elderly patients 'helped to die to free up beds'

re: Elderly patients 'helped to die to free up beds' en>fr fr>en
By pippin Comments: 9801, member since Mon Jan 19, 2009
On Thu Jun 21, 2012 12:53 PM
When we reach 70 we are of no further use to the community. We just drain public funds to keep us alive. Isn't that right, Pops? I just want to get back to my Voodoo Princess's pussy. She stormed out of the Prince of Darkness's palace, where she had a chamber, when the mad old bat, Emmanuelle, turned up. Partly my fault 'cause I stayed away to avoid the old bint. Had I been there when the cat fight started, I would have taken my Princess to my home. A glorious fuck up, bollocks! :(
re: Elderly patients 'helped to die to free up beds' (karma: 2)  en>fr fr>en
By PopsFrost Comments: 12271, member since Mon Jan 21, 2008
On Thu Jun 21, 2012 01:31 PM
pippin wrote:

When we reach 70 we are of no further use to the community. We just drain public funds to keep us alive. Isn't that right, Pops?


Actually, I thought of you while posting that story. I now understand why you fled the UK.
re: Elderly patients 'helped to die to free up beds' (karma: 1)  en>fr fr>en
By JFrum Comments: 4776, member since Sat Nov 19, 2011
On Thu Jun 21, 2012 01:58 PM
PopsFrost wrote:

pippin wrote:

When we reach 70 we are of no further use to the community. We just drain public funds to keep us alive. Isn't that right, Pops?


Actually, I thought of you while posting that story. I now understand why you fled the UK.

Pip could be of one final use to society.He could super glue ball bearings to hisself and blow up a busload of muslim school children
re: Elderly patients 'helped to die to free up beds' en>fr fr>en
By AllahBlowsPigsmember has saluted, click to view salute photos Comments: 5166, member since Tue Dec 21, 2004
On Thu Jun 21, 2012 03:13 PM
pippin wrote:

When we reach 70 we are of no further use to the community. We just drain public funds to keep us alive. Isn't that right, Pops? I just want to get back to my Voodoo Princess's pussy. She stormed out of the Prince of Darkness's palace, where she had a chamber, when the mad old bat, Emmanuelle, turned up. Partly my fault 'cause I stayed away to avoid the old bint. Had I been there when the cat fight started, I would have taken my Princess to my home. A glorious fuck up, bollocks! :(


You couldn't be any more boring.
re: Elderly patients 'helped to die to free up beds' en>fr fr>en
By pippin Comments: 9801, member since Mon Jan 19, 2009
On Thu Jun 21, 2012 04:56 PM
AllahBlowsPigs wrote:

pippin wrote:

When we reach 70 we are of no further use to the community. We just drain public funds to keep us alive. Isn't that right, Pops? I just want to get back to my Voodoo Princess's pussy. She stormed out of the Prince of Darkness's palace, where she had a chamber, when the mad old bat, Emmanuelle, turned up. Partly my fault 'cause I stayed away to avoid the old bint. Had I been there when the cat fight started, I would have taken my Princess to my home. A glorious fuck up, bollocks! :(


You couldn't be any more boring.
:D You can always skip over my posts. No problem to me, Sunshine. Meanwhile, go and get fucked!
re: Elderly patients 'helped to die to free up beds' en>fr fr>en
By JFrum Comments: 4776, member since Sat Nov 19, 2011
On Thu Jun 21, 2012 05:08 PM
pippin wrote:

AllahBlowsPigs wrote:

pippin wrote:

When we reach 70 we are of no further use to the community. We just drain public funds to keep us alive. Isn't that right, Pops? I just want to get back to my Voodoo Princess's pussy. She stormed out of the Prince of Darkness's palace, where she had a chamber, when the mad old bat, Emmanuelle, turned up. Partly my fault 'cause I stayed away to avoid the old bint. Had I been there when the cat fight started, I would have taken my Princess to my home. A glorious fuck up, bollocks! :(


Sorry about your cat Pip.

Image hotlink - 'http://i1261.photobucket.com/albums/ii591/Frum/funny-pictures-gifs-justin-bieber-omg-cat.gif'




You couldn't be any more boring.
:D You can always skip over my posts. No problem to me, Sunshine. Meanwhile, go and get fucked!
re: Elderly patients 'helped to die to free up beds' en>fr fr>en
By AllahBlowsPigsmember has saluted, click to view salute photos Comments: 5166, member since Tue Dec 21, 2004
On Thu Jun 21, 2012 05:49 PM
pippin wrote:

AllahBlowsPigs wrote:

pippin wrote:

When we reach 70 we are of no further use to the community. We just drain public funds to keep us alive. Isn't that right, Pops? I just want to get back to my Voodoo Princess's pussy. She stormed out of the Prince of Darkness's palace, where she had a chamber, when the mad old bat, Emmanuelle, turned up. Partly my fault 'cause I stayed away to avoid the old bint. Had I been there when the cat fight started, I would have taken my Princess to my home. A glorious fuck up, bollocks! :(


You couldn't be any more boring.
:D You can always skip over my posts. No problem to me, Sunshine. Meanwhile, go and get fucked!


Sounds great in theory... however I don't scroll while looking at avatars, by the time I realize it's you who posted the drivel I'm half asleep.
re: Elderly patients 'helped to die to free up beds' (karma: 1)  en>fr fr>en
By FuhkFrenchToads Comments: 6429, member since Thu Sep 01, 2005
On Thu Jun 21, 2012 06:28 PM
Unethical, by any and all means. Whoever proposes the idea that the old must be replaced promptly.... needs to be dragged out to the middle of a street, doused in gasoline, and lit up.... only long enough to cause blindness and pain... then extinguished.... bathed in honey, and tied down to the ground near an ant hole, and left there to die of dehydration, ant bites and sun exposure in the next 3 most horribly painful days possible.

Just as the life of a fetus is not even a question in conservative circles.... so is the same as the life of an elder.

If you wanna know what I'd do about someone proposing to kill elders.. read again the first paragraph.
re: Elderly patients 'helped to die to free up beds' en>fr fr>en
By lookanlearn Comments: 9986, member since Sun Jun 10, 2007
On Thu Jun 21, 2012 10:49 PM
FuhkFrenchToads wrote:

Unethical, by any and all means. Whoever proposes the idea that the old must be replaced promptly.... needs to be dragged out to the middle of a street, doused in gasoline, and lit up.... only long enough to cause blindness and pain... then extinguished.... bathed in honey, and tied down to the ground near an ant hole, and left there to die of dehydration, ant bites and sun exposure in the next 3 most horribly painful days possible.

Just as the life of a fetus is not even a question in conservative circles.... so is the same as the life of an elder.

If you wanna know what I'd do about someone proposing to kill elders.. read again the first paragraph.


Are you going to personally fund people who are just about to die?
Fucking Geezers Need to Die en>fr fr>en
By NOZZLE Comments: 15127, member since Mon Mar 07, 2005
On Thu Jun 21, 2012 11:07 PM
The old people that are mouldering around burning up either inheritance money or public assets should be put on an iceberg and shoved out to sea.

The geezers that you are talking about who are worthless food wasting pieces of shit today were the same worthless pieces of shit 40 years ago.

My neighbor down the road croaked at the age of 91, up until then, you would see him on the hottest day of summer slinging bales of straw, operating a combine from 6am to 8pm during harvest season and so forth.

The pieces of shit who sit around all day long who hit the road at 10:00 am to go to one doctors appointment after another need to fucking die.

Enough of this shit of keeping these worthless geezers alive,
re: Elderly patients 'helped to die to free up beds' (karma: 1)  en>fr fr>en
By FuhkFrenchToads Comments: 6429, member since Thu Sep 01, 2005
On Fri Jun 22, 2012 04:31 AM
lookanlearn wrote:

FuhkFrenchToads wrote:

Unethical, by any and all means. Whoever proposes the idea that the old must be replaced promptly.... needs to be dragged out to the middle of a street, doused in gasoline, and lit up.... only long enough to cause blindness and pain... then extinguished.... bathed in honey, and tied down to the ground near an ant hole, and left there to die of dehydration, ant bites and sun exposure in the next 3 most horribly painful days possible.

Just as the life of a fetus is not even a question in conservative circles.... so is the same as the life of an elder.

If you wanna know what I'd do about someone proposing to kill elders.. read again the first paragraph.


Are you going to personally fund people who are just about to die?


the same question is what we ask of those who support abortion, right?
re: Elderly patients 'helped to die to free up beds' en>fr fr>en
By lookanlearn Comments: 9986, member since Sun Jun 10, 2007
On Fri Jun 22, 2012 05:14 AM



NOZZLE wrote:

The old people that are mouldering around burning up either inheritance money or public assets should be put on an iceberg and shoved out to sea.

The geezers that you are talking about who are worthless food wasting pieces of shit today were the same worthless pieces of shit 40 years ago.

My neighbor down the road croaked at the age of 91, up until then, you would see him on the hottest day of summer slinging bales of straw, operating a combine from 6am to 8pm during harvest season and so forth.

The pieces of shit who sit around all day long who hit the road at 10:00 am to go to one doctors appointment after another need to fucking die.

Enough of this shit of keeping these worthless geezers alive,

Personally; I think those who have longer than a few days to live are useful for medical research.
:)
For their pension ;)

Thats where its going.
:O
Probably.
re: Elderly patients 'helped to die to free up beds' (karma: 2)  en>fr fr>en
By TexanForever Comments: 21017, member since Thu Jun 10, 2004
On Fri Jun 22, 2012 08:51 AM
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... this is fine unless you happen to be that old geezer who worked hard all his life, perhaps after defending his nation on a battlefield or in a Spitfire, payed into the system for years, thinking he would be lovingly cared for after a stroke.

Selfish little lib bitches with no ethics or morals.



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re: Elderly patients 'helped to die to free up beds' en>fr fr>en
By mjd001 Comments: 523, member since Fri Jan 24, 2003
On Fri Jun 22, 2012 12:03 PM
When we reach 70 we are of no further use to the community.


What cynicism!

As long as it remains a personal opinion and not public policy I'm fine with it.
re: Elderly patients 'helped to die to free up beds' en>fr fr>en
By NOZZLE Comments: 15127, member since Mon Mar 07, 2005
On Fri Jun 22, 2012 05:51 PM
TexanForever wrote:

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... this is fine unless you happen to be that old geezer who worked hard all his life, perhaps after defending his nation on a battlefield or in a Spitfire, payed into the system for years, thinking he would be lovingly cared for after a stroke.


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You mean your hypothetical combat vet wants to spend the rest of his days rotting in his own shit?

Lovingly cared for, for who's benefit would that be, his or his next of kin.

In that condition, I would choose death. If on the other hand I had a stroke but could still use a gun, I think I would take the opportunity to clean the planet up.

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