Alan Dershowitz: Iran Declares War Against the Jewish People

The Iranian government, long known for its Holocaust denial and anti-Zionism, has now declared war against the Jewish people. In a speech delivered in Tehran, Vice President Mohammad-Reza Rahimi accused the Jewish people of spreading illegal drugs around the world, killing Black babies, starting the Bolshevik Revolution and causing many of the world’s other ills. His “proof”: “The Islamic Republic of Iran will pay for anyone who can research and find one single Zionist who is an addict. They do not exist. This is the proof of their involvement in drugs trade.”

There are, of course, numerous addicts among Jews and Zionists, as there are among all groups. Israel has several treatment centers for drug addicts as do Jewish communities throughout the world. He also cited “proof” that the Jews caused the Bolshevik Revolution: not a single Jew was killed during that Revolution. Of course, thousands of Jews were murdered during the Bolshevik Revolution as well as during Stalin’s purges in the decades following the establishment of the Soviet Union.

But don’t expect truth from a country whose leaders deny the existence of even a single gay person in all of Iran.

Vice President Rahimi cited the Talmud as the source of his claptrap and in support of his claim that Jews believe that they are racially superior and that “God has created the world so that all other nations can serve them.”

These bigoted claims would be laughable if they did not have such a long and disturbing history. Virtually everything stated by Vice President Rahimi came directly out of Hitler’s playbook of the 1930s and Stalin’s playbook of the 1940s and 50s. They must be taken seriously in light of the fact that Iran is seeking to develop nuclear weapons and has already called for the Jewish state to be wiped off the map. Moreover, Iran’s surrogate, Hezbollah, has invited all the Jews of the world to move to Israel so that it will be easier to destroy them in one fell swoop.

Taken together, these statements and actions constitute a clear incitement to genocide, which is explicitly prohibited by international law and by the rules governing the International Criminal Court. Professor Irwin Cotler, the former minister of justice and attorney general of Canada, has drafted a brilliant brief making the case for indicting the Iranian leaders for inciting genocide against the Jewish people. Vice President Rahimi’s speech constitutes additional evidence of that crime, if any were needed.

If the leaders of Iran are guilty of incitement against the Jewish people, as they plainly are, they have many coconspirators and facilitators. In recent years these have included several prominent church leaders, such as Cardinal Glemp of Poland, Father Daniel Berrigan of the United States, Cardinal Rodriguez of Honduras, Bishop Tutu of South Africa and numerous others who have crossed the line from anti-Zionism to overt anti-Semitism.

Cardinal Glemp, while serving as the primate of Poland, accused the Jews of bringing Communism, alcoholism and poverty to Poland. He also accused them of provoking anti-Semitism. Father Daniel Berrigan characterized the Jewish state as “a criminal Jewish community” that “manufactures human waste.” A current cardinal of the Catholic Church Oscar Andres Rodriguez Meridiaga, who is the archbishop of Tegucigalpa, Honduras, has been telling anyone who is willing to listen that “the Jews” are to blame for the scandal surrounding the sexual misconduct of priests toward young parishioners! How did Cardinal Rodriguez ever come up with this ridiculous idea? Here is his “logic:” the Vatican is anti-Israel and pro-Palestinian. It follows, therefore, that “the Jews” had to get even with the Catholic Church, while at the same time deflecting attention away from Israeli injustices against the Palestinians. The Jews managed to do this by arranging for the media which they, of course, control to give disproportionate attention to the Vatican sex scandal.

Not to be outdone, Anglican Bishop Desmond Tutu, claims that Americans are frightened of excessive Jewish influence in America because “the Jewish lobby is powerful—very powerful.” He compared the Jewish influence in America to that of “Hitler, Mussolini, Stalin, Pinochet, Milosevic and Idi Amin”—all of whom who were “powerful, but in the end they bit the dust.”

And now joining in the incitement is Pulitzer Prize winning author Alice Walker, who says that the situation of Arab citizens in Israel is much worse that what Blacks experienced in the South during Jim Crow, thus trivializing the suffering of her own people about which she has written so poignantly! She has now decided to withhold her writings from all readers of Hebrew, the language of the Jewish people.

These hateful voices, from the left, the right and the center, are influencing conduct around the world. Anti-Semitic violence is increasing as is anti-Semitic incitement. The time has come to take this threat seriously, whether it comes from absurd sources such as Iran or more respected personages such as Bishop Tutu and Alice Walker.

I am not seeking to constrain freedom of expression through governmental censorship. I am asking people of good will to condemn all anti-Jewish bigotry even when expressed by those who are admired, and to take action against the danger posed by the noxious combination of radioactive words and radioactive weapons.

www.gatestoneinstitute.org . . .

If the leaders of Iran are guilty of incitement against the Jewish people, as they plainly are, they have many coconspirators and facilitators. In recent years these have included several prominent church leaders, such as Cardinal Glemp of Poland, Father Daniel Berrigan of the United States, Cardinal Rodriguez of Honduras...

Oh, look!

A Jew is pursuing an anti-Christian agenda by accusing the Church of conspiring with Mohammedans against Jews.

The evidence he cites in support is an assertion by a member of the Church that Jews pursue an anti-Christian agenda.

How did Cardinal Rodriguez ever come up with this ridiculous idea? Here is his “logic:” the Vatican is anti-Israel and pro-Palestinian. It follows, therefore, that “the Jews” had to get even with the Catholic Church, while at the same time deflecting attention away from Israeli injustices against the Palestinians.

Yep, that's me convinced.

In other news, no Jew ever conspired and collaborated with Mohammedans in the invasion and occupation of Christian Europe.

But don’t expect truth from a country whose leaders deny the existence of even a single gay person in all of Iran.

Is this a faggot thread?

he Iranian government, long known for its Holocaust denial and anti-Zionism, has now declared war against the Jewish people. In a speech delivered in Tehran, Vice President Mohammad-Reza Rahimi accused the Jewish people of spreading illegal drugs around the world, killing Black babies, starting the Bolshevik Revolution and causing many of the world's other ills. His "proof": "The Islamic Republic of Iran will pay for anyone who can research and find one single Zionist who is an addict. They do not exist. This is the proof of their involvement in drugs trade."

Sounds as meaningful as Tranny Spic Wannabe after he had his breakfast straight from his father in law soiled diaper

MadSubhuman wrote:



Sounds as meaningful as Tranny Spic Wannabe after he had his breakfast straight from his father in law soiled diaper

No, Jew, no.

This is a thread about Iran declaring war on Jews.

Now I appreciate the author couldn't get halfway through his piece without veering off into some anti-Christian slander, but you can try to stay on topic.

So stay on topic.

Prove to me that Jews can stay on topic!... And that no Jew ever conspired or collaborated in the Mohammedan invasion and occupation of Christian Europe.

Cardinal Glemp, while serving as the primate of Poland, accused the Jews of bringing Communism, alcoholism and poverty to Poland. He also accused them of provoking anti-Semitism

if I remember well, and it was many years ago
Glemp just tried to understand and explain why there was some anti-semitism left in Poland after the fall of Communism. He blamed it on Jewish Communists. And the reality was that Stalin used imported Communists-Jews as a tool of enslaving of Soviet occupied Poland. Good old manipulation: "look, not the Russians are responsible for Communism, but the Jews".

The Soviet Jews were e.g. over-represented in brutal secret police that tortured and murdered Polish patriots by thousands. I myself as a kid met an old woman that in the 40-ties was blinded during tortures by Jewish Communists for a "political crime".

Communism was forced on the Poles against their will, brought both poverty, hopelessness and alcoholism. So it's partly true... Partly because that doesn't matter what surnames the henchmen had. Important was that they served the Soviet bloody monster, whatever nationality.

Glemp himself supported revival of Polish-Jewish friendship against the Soviet interests. Of course, he shouldn't remind the role of the Commie Jews, as it is not politically correct, is it ? You dare to do it, they can call you names.

tozer wrote:



THis “proof”: “The Islamic Republic of Iran will pay for anyone who can research and find one single Zionist who is an addict.

She died. Give me my money Iran.

I wish Israel would just get it over with. Don't even bother trying to take out point specific targets related to iranz nuclear program, just nuke the whole fucking country. Pick the top 10 cities by population, and let them have it.

Trafalgar wrote:

If the leaders of Iran are guilty of incitement against the Jewish people, as they plainly are, they have many coconspirators and facilitators. In recent years these have included several prominent church leaders, such as Cardinal Glemp of Poland, Father Daniel Berrigan of the United States, Cardinal Rodriguez of Honduras...

Oh, look!

A Jew is pursuing an anti-Christian agenda by accusing the Church of conspiring with Mohammedans against Jews.

The evidence he cites in support is an assertion by a member of the Church that Jews pursue an anti-Christian agenda.

How did Cardinal Rodriguez ever come up with this ridiculous idea? Here is his “logic:” the Vatican is anti-Israel and pro-Palestinian. It follows, therefore, that “the Jews” had to get even with the Catholic Church, while at the same time deflecting attention away from Israeli injustices against the Palestinians.

Yep, that's me convinced.

In other news, no Jew ever conspired and collaborated with Mohammedans in the invasion and occupation of Christian Europe.

I suppose some Jews did conspire with Muslims, almost certainly so did some Christians. So what? That was centuries ago.

martsy wrote:

Cardinal Glemp, while serving as the primate of Poland, accused the Jews of bringing Communism, alcoholism and poverty to Poland. He also accused them of provoking anti-Semitism

if I remember well, and it was many years ago
Glemp just tried to understand and explain why there was some anti-semitism left in Poland after the fall of Communism. He blamed it on Jewish Communists.

Well, you do not remember well, marsydiot, and the fact Glemp expressed traditional Polish antisemitism some years ago is not an excuse.

Glemp blamed Polish antisemitism on the Jews themselves, on 'international jewry' (and not communist jews only).

And Glemp had to present a public apology.

Polish swines. Filthy pigs.

Glemp's controversial remarks about Jews have caused some Jewish leaders to call him an antisemite,[4] including Harvard law professor Alan Dershowitz, for statements he has made, including that Jews were "plying [Polish] peasants with alcohol" and "spreading communism" and that they "control the mass-media in many countries." [5] According to Dershowitz, Glemp "was forced to apologize" as the result of Dershowitz's lawsuit against him.[6] Professor Joanna B. Michlic makes reference to Glemp, among others, "utter[ing] many overt and covert references to Jews as the harmful other in Poland." [7]
Adam Michnik and David Ost assert that:
By 1984, when Primate Glemp wrote and signed a new edition of Roman Dmowski’s 1927 pamphlet, Church, Nation, and State, once could not longer have any doubts regarding Glemp’s political sympathies: they lay with Dmowski’s Endecja political tendency, the major nationalist party in the interwar period known for its illiberal and authoritarian policits, support for a strong leader, advocacy of Catholicism as a state religion, and violent anti-Semitism.[8]
Historian Robert S. Wistrich also discusses Glemp's relationship to Dmowski and attitudes towards Jews.
[Glemp]... warned Jews not to 'talk to us from the position of a people raised above all'. The Cardinal, Poland's leading Churchman, seemed to be presenting anti-Semitism as a legitimate self-defence against Jewish 'anti-polonism'. Deploring the attacks of 'world Jewry' on the poor nuns at Auschwitz, he admonished Jewish leaders in terms that seemed to echo the words of the pre-war national Democratic leader Roman Dmowski (one of Glemp's heroes): 'Your power lies in the mass media that are easily at your disposal in many countries. Let them not serve to spread anti-Polish feeling'.[9]
Glemp has "said he recognized that his widely publicized homily might have caused pain among Jews, and he expressed regret."

jean V,

hi moron,
long time no see, you still insist on embarrassing yourself?
farting with your prejudice idiocy around?

BRAVO! you googled bravely, asshole, of course without knowing what you are writing about

Glemp blamed Polish antisemitism on the Jews themselves, on 'international jewry' (and not communist jews only).

that is a bullshit, as he condemned hostility and ugly deeds on both sides, he nuanced the discussion, you wouldn't know, asshole you can't read this language, can you?

Jews were "plying [Polish] peasants with alcohol"

that is true, but you wouldn't know, idiot, would you?

The Jews had monopole on brewing alcohol in Polish countryside for hundreds of years (that was probably one of royal privileges they had) and the peasants were main customers, of course. That gave income both to the Jews and Polish gentry, but the Jews were criticized by reformists for "demoralizing a nation" and that put them in trouble e.g. in Ukrainian part of Poland where the Cossacks bought booze but hated them like hell (mainly wifes at home ). That is true. If it was for idiots like you it should be forbidden to remember. I'd like Dershovitz to prove it wasn't true. Please.

Jews were

"spreading communism"

that is also true, check the numbers asshole, most members of Polish Communist Party (KPP) were Jewish, like it or not. They were renegades and many Jews despised them too. When public opinion blamed them for treason with the Soviets, the shadow fell on many other honest, patriotic Jews. That's also true. Relax, you are too stupid to know.

"control the mass-media in many countries.

and this is not true?

At least in Poland in the 90-ties they did, they controlled both the biggest media concern Agora, public TV and many influential newspapers, which was very comfortable, they could call any rival anti-Semite.

Adam Michnik (...) assert that:
By 1984, when Primate Glemp wrote and signed a new edition of Roman Dmowski’s 1927 pamphlet, Church, Nation, and State, once could not longer have any doubts regarding Glemp’s political sympathies: they lay with Dmowski’s Endecja political tendency,

that is very funny... Adam Michnik is an outstanding Jewish intellectual [BTW. his parents were Moscow agents, communists, his father was jailed as a Soviet spy ) and I myself read Michnik's apologetic book about Dmowski who was one of most interesting political writers, like it or not.So the central Polish Jew is anti-Semite because he wrote well about Dmowski? Absurd.

[Glemp]... warned Jews not to 'talk to us from the position of a people raised above all'.

that is actually quite good idea, because if you do, it is no discussion, it's a blackmail.

Reality is usually more complicated that a vulgar propaganda.

BTW: Glemp was an enthusiastic supporter of Polish-Jewish dialogue even in times when Commie censorship prevented it.

What he said was true. Some feelings got hurt, it's fine.

What I like in Iran's urban features, is the shape and style of their somewhat grim lampposts.

mikgof wrote:


I suppose some Jews did conspire with Muslims, almost certainly so did some Christians. So what? That was centuries ago.

Do you 'suppose' that some Jews were killed in pogroms in 14th century Spain? Do you 'suppose' that Jews were expelled from Spain in 1492? Do you suppose that some former Jews were killed by the Inquisition?

No, you do not 'suppose'. You know, and you know because certain people never shut the fuck up about it, even though it was 'centuries ago'. Here's an example (see paragraphs 5-8).
www.jpost.com . . .

It's selective history, it's always one-way and it's very often just gratuitous Catholic-bashing. Why else does this article about Iranian-Israeli relations mention Catholics?

Oh, btw, Jews had great fun lording it over Christians in Al-Andalus. Yet today's Jews wonder why Catholics in Spain -and in other places- tend not to think that Jews are the best thing ever. As if they're the only ones with a sense of history...

L'Église face à la pénurie des prêtres

«Stable dans le trop peu», confie le père Bernard Podvin, porte-parole des évêques de France. Il commente, sur fond de «manque chronique de prêtres», le cru 2012 des ordinations de prêtres catholiques.

Ce week-end ou au cours de cette année, ils seront en effet 96 séminaristes à devenir prêtres. Il y en avait 112 en 2011. Soit une moyenne en France d'une centaine d'ordinations par an depuis une dizaine d'années. Ou un prêtre par diocèse, même si certains n'ont pas eu d'ordination depuis plus de dix ans. Les disparités sont énormes, notamment entre diocèses ruraux et diocèses urbains. Le diocèse de Saint-Flour, dans le Cantal, n'avait pas eu d'ordinations depuis 2004, il aura un nouveau prêtre cette année.

À cette centaine d'ordinations, il faut ajouter une cinquantaine d'ordinations de prêtre, religieux, appartenant à des congrégations - comme les dominicains, trois cette année - ou à des «communautés nouvelles», comme «l'Emmanuel», d'inspiration charismatique, qui compte cinq nouveaux prêtres.

Pour l'avenir, on sait déjà que l'année 2013 ne sera pas bonne puisque seulement 76 séminaristes diocésains sont ordonnés diacres en 2012. Le diaconat est la dernière étape avant l'ordination sacerdotale qui intervient un an plus tard.

La «stabilité» est donc avérée pour les années passées, mais elle n'est pas garantie pour l'avenir. D'autant que la stabilité acquise avant 2000 (autour de 120 ordinations par an) est passée au milieu de la dernière décennie à une centaine. Elle pourrait donc encore franchir un nouveau palier dans la décennie qui vient.

Sur le terrain, cette pénurie, compensée, ici et là, par d'heureux exemples, est une vraie crise. L'âge médian des 14.000 prêtres français est en effet supérieur à 75 ans. Ce qui signifie concrètement, pour le clergé français, qu'il y a autant de prêtres plus âgés de 75 ans, que de prêtres âgés de moins de 75 ans… Sans cynisme - mais contraint par le réalisme que les évêques connaissent bien pour présider régulièrement des obsèques de prêtres -, le père Podvin conclut: «On compte aujourd'hui huit décès de prêtres pour une ordination.»
«Le mot “vocation” n'est plus un tabou»

Il y a encore une dizaine d'années, cette tendance n'inquiétait pas certains évêques. Ils estimaient que «les laïcs allaient prendre le relais» autour de quelques prêtres. Mais il apparaît aujourd'hui, dans les rangs épiscopaux, que «l'on ne se résout plus à ce qu'il n'y ait plus de prêtres», confie un expert du dossier. «Il y a encore quelques résistances, mais le mot “vocation” n'est plus un tabou. On ne peut plus se contenter de rester les bras ballants, il faut maintenant oser proposer aux jeunes ce chemin du sacerdoce», reconnaît-il en demandant de ne pas être cité tant le sujet est douloureux dans les rangs épiscopaux. Plusieurs visions de l'Église s'affrontent sur l'identité du prêtre et sur son rôle.

Ainsi, ce prélat d'une très importante ville du sud-est de la France qui a refusé, il y a peu, une petite dizaine de candidats qui souhaitaient devenir prêtres. Sans doute ces jeunes, à l'aise avec le col romain et la soutane, ne cadraient pas vraiment avec la «bonne» vision ecclésiale. Le cas n'est pas isolé.

Car «il ne faut pas se leurrer, continue ce spécialiste, même si aucun évêque n'a de recette miracle, les vocations naissent et se développent essentiellement dans des familles catholiques pratiquantes». Ajoutant que «les entrées au séminaire sont directement corrélées au nombre de pratiquants: sans pratique religieuse vivante, pas de vocation».

Dernier axiome: «Moins il y a de jeunes… moins il y a de jeunes!», explique cet expert. Il pointe telle communauté, très en vogue il y a encore quinze ans qui l'est moins aujourd'hui. Et telle autre, alors modeste, qui a actuellement le vent en poupe. Ainsi la communauté Saint-Martin: de facture très classique, elle attire beaucoup.

Less katolik priests in Europe. People are tired to see their children raped by katilik priests and nuns. Let's nuke the Vatican!

Trafalgar wrote:

mikgof wrote:


I suppose some Jews did conspire with Muslims, almost certainly so did some Christians. So what? That was centuries ago.

Do you 'suppose' that some Jews were killed in pogroms in 14th century Spain? Do you 'suppose' that Jews were expelled from Spain in 1492? Do you suppose that some former Jews were killed by the Inquisition?

No, you do not 'suppose'. You know, and you know because certain people never shut the fuck up about it, even though it was 'centuries ago'. Here's an example (see paragraphs 5-8).
www.jpost.com . . .

It's selective history, it's always one-way and it's very often just gratuitous Catholic-bashing. Why else does this article about Iranian-Israeli relations mention Catholics?

Oh, btw, Jews had great fun lording it over Christians in Al-Andalus. Yet today's Jews wonder why Catholics in Spain -and in other places- tend not to think that Jews are the best thing ever. As if they're the only ones with a sense of history...

I'm not catholic bashing. I find all religions and sects thereof equally humourous. This is the 21st century remember; not the middle ages.

mikgof wrote:


I'm not catholic bashing. I find all religions and sects thereof equally humourous. This is the 21st century remember; not the middle ages.

I didn't say you were.

I'm saying the author of this article is.

'Iran wants to nuke all the Jews; any Catholic who dares to question the actions of Jews past and present is conspiring with Iran to nuke all the Jews.'

That's his (shitty) argument in a nutshell.

Fuck him.

Trafalgar wrote:


That's his (shitty) argument in a nutshell.
.

You should teach law at Harvard.

'Iran wants to nuke all the Jews; any Catholic who dares to question the actions of Jews past and present is conspiring with Iran to nuke all the Jews.'

That's his (shitty) argument in a nutshell.

That's a funny argument: "Don't you differ with me or I call you ugly names. And when I have called you names, many others will repeat after me like the sheep and people like you will be afraid to differ with me".

A kind of not very sophisticated blackmail.

The labels are quite important, there is no discussion when the labels replace the arguments.

tozer wrote:

Trafalgar wrote:


That's his (shitty) argument in a nutshell.
.

You should teach law at Harvard.

You know he can't.

He would have to be a fucking nigger or a gawd damn commie kike to do that.

MadRusski wrote:

he Iranian government, long known for its Holocaust denial and anti-Zionism, has now declared war against the Jewish people. In a speech delivered in Tehran, Vice President Mohammad-Reza Rahimi accused the Jewish people of spreading illegal drugs around the world, killing Black babies, starting the Bolshevik Revolution and causing many of the world's other ills. His "proof": "The Islamic Republic of Iran will pay for anyone who can research and find one single Zionist who is an addict. They do not exist. This is the proof of their involvement in drugs trade."

Sounds as meaningful as Tranny Spic Wannabe after he had his breakfast straight from his father in law soiled diaper

You are a disgusting Slavic bastard. Lay off the Girling, ice and lemon, you shit eating, obsessive plonker!

tozer wrote:



You should teach law at Harvard.

Funny you should mention law.

Orlov studied law for a short time, long before he came to Spain where he organised the mass murder of Catholics, the destruction of Catholic churches, and the theft of Catholic Spain's gold.

Orlov wasn't the only (ex-) Jewish Communist in Spain 1936-39. It's estimated that up to 25% of the International Brigade volunteers were (ex-) Jews. www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org . . .

One could argue the evidence strongly suggests that (ex-) Jews played a disproportionately large role in the mass murder of Catholics and Moscow's attempt to impose Communism on Catholic Spain.

But I won't say it because I'd hate to be accused of conspiring with Iran to nuke all the Jews.

Traffittas beloved franco was a colonial army officer of the army of africa, many muslims he brought them over to 'European' spain to fight the Christians well papists at least


jajajaja

ps
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Trafalgar wrote:

mikgof wrote:


I'm not catholic bashing. I find all religions and sects thereof equally humourous. This is the 21st century remember; not the middle ages.

I didn't say you were.

I'm saying the author of this article is.

'Iran wants to nuke all the Jews; any Catholic who dares to question the actions of Jews past and present is conspiring with Iran to nuke all the Jews.'

That's his (shitty) argument in a nutshell.

Fuck him.

Since "Iran never asked for nuking Jews", this is called a sophism.

Trafalgar wrote:

tozer wrote:



You should teach law at Harvard.

Funny you should mention law.

Orlov studied law for a short time, long before he came to Spain where he organised the mass murder of Catholics, the destruction of Catholic churches, and the theft of Catholic Spain's gold.

Orlov wasn't the only (ex-) Jewish Communist in Spain 1936-39. It's estimated that up to 25% of the International Brigade volunteers were (ex-) Jews. www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org . . .

One could argue the evidence strongly suggests that (ex-) Jews played a disproportionately large role in the mass murder of Catholics and Moscow's attempt to impose Communism on Catholic Spain.

But I won't say it because I'd hate to be accused of conspiring with Iran to nuke all the Jews.

Funny you should mention that. Many, if not most prominent Spaniards are of Marrano descent. Since you are a turn-coat Brit, and intellectually challenges, I am sure you have nothing to worry about.

Dagon wrote:

What I like in Iran's urban features, is the shape and style of their somewhat grim lampposts.

It sure is a cheap way of dealing with child molesters and smak dealers.

How is the expense of the Judicial system working out for all you taxpayers?