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Talk of a Pope-maker: that fine lady, Lady X, made ten (10) Popes, six of them carrying her genes.

First, she was the mistress of a bishop. She helped the bishop to have the Pope murdered, so the bishop-lover can become Pope (1). They had one son.

Second, with the bishop-lover still Pope, Lady X marries powerful politician, Mr A, and they have kids.

Her ex-lover Pope dies. There's a lull, and three Popes come and go. Now Mr A has become real powerful, and Lady A gets a straw man elected Pope (2). Then another Pope (3). When Pope 3 dies, Lady X's son with Pope 1 is old enough to be named Pope in his turn, Pope #4. At this stage, Lady X has made 4 Popes.

Problem, at this point things turned bad for lady X. Mr A dies. She wants to remarry with an even more powerful politician, Mr B. At this stage, please note that lady X was one damn skillful girl making a damn lot of wise career moves. Alas, Lady X had forgotten to account for the power of her very own genes: Lady X's very own son with Mr A, sonny C, objected to her career move with Mr B, fearing for his own career as sonny C. On the day of her third wedding, sonny C -and his brother, sonny D- get mummy Lady X and stepdad Mr B jailed (and suffocated in the case of stepdad). Lady X dies in prison.

But the end of lady X is not the end of her familial saga. The Pope Force strong in the family genes was. First a son of sonny C (grandson of lady X) gets to be Pope (5). Lives in style with prostitutes galore. Then it's the turn of a nephew of Lady X (family Pope 6). After family Pope 6, a guy (victim_e) vaguely related gets to be Pope. Lady X genes die hard. A son of sonny D gets victim_e murdered and becomes Pope himself (family Pope 7).

Then the family gives it a rest for half a dozen of Popes, until two of Sonny C's grandsons come of age and become one after the other family popes #8 and #9.

And for the grand fireworks finale, who succeeded family Pope #9? The very own nephew of brothers Popes 8 and 9. And that family Pope #10 ended the line with a bang: prostitutes, homosexuality, zoophilia, nothing was good enough for this jolly old Pope. True, he ended up being excommunicated but after years and years of being the Roman Catholic Church head honcho. He was Lady X great grandson.



For 5 K, what was the name of Lady X?

Game terms and conditions of Roman Catholic honesty might apply as I will make them.



In the meantime, I will pray for the salvation of your souls with Roman Catholic piety and devotion.

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What were the Muslims up to during this period? Or the Jews? Catholics are an easy target on account of the corporate hierarchy.

PistolPierre wrote:

What were the aliens up to during this period? Or the ewoks?

I have no idea, nor do I care about aliens and ewoks. I'm not one of them.

But I find it sad you don't care about the history of your religion, Roman Catholicism.

Plus the familial saga of Lady X and her offspring is a soap opera with a plot thicker than that of 'Dallas', don't you think?

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I do care about the history of Europe as it is intertwined with that of the Catholic Church. You are judging it with 21st Century social norms. Murder was much more common 800 years ago as was every other crime. Why would the Church be immune?

PistolPierre wrote:

You are judging the Catholic Church with 21st Century social norms.
Murder was much more common 800 years ago as was every other crime.
Why would the Church be immune?

You should re-read these sentences of yours a dozen times, bang your head against the wall (hard) an equal amount of times,

and repeat the process until you realize how dumb it is to assume the Roman Catholic Church is supposed to mirror the crime rate of society.


VAVD's opinion of your brain power is overly flattering. VAVD is Mr Super Nice.

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Yeah, I'm dumb to point out that the Church was comprised of barbarous Germanic nobles whose ancestors were a few generations removed from being barbarous rabble in a Roman Empire.

Why would such a human institution be any different than it was?

PistolPierre wrote:

Yeah, I'm dumb to point out that the Church was comprised of barbarous Germanic nobles whose ancestors..

Tough luck, clown, Lady X was not of Germanic lineage.

Pure local aristocracy of medieval 'Italy'.

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jeanv wrote:

PistolPierre wrote:

Yeah, I'm dumb to point out that the Church was comprised of barbarous Germanic nobles whose ancestors..

Tough luck, clown, Lady X was not of Germanic lineage.

Pure local aristocracy of medieval 'Italy'.

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A Medici or Borgia? Even better. The Italians nobles slaughtered each other up until the nineteenth Century. Instead of being a few generations removed from being German barbarians they were decadent Romans. The Romans didn't shy from bloodshed.

Keep it up and I'm going to point out how perhaps you are religious down deep. Why else would you have such absurdly high standards? You must be descended from Levites. Are you a Cohen or Levin or Levine?

jeanv wrote:

Tough luck, clown, Lady X was (..) Pure local aristocracy of medieval 'Italy'.

PistolPierre wrote:

A Medici or Borgia?

It's getting better and better.


So you think the Medici and Borgia families reached prominence in medieval times?

And not in the Renaissance?


Did you study History with watcha senseï, perchance?

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The Renaissance had its root in the late Middle Ages according to Will Durant and Rodney Stark, the only authors I have read about it.

Most scholars point to the 13th century as the beginning of the Renaissance. I don't really care about a precise date. When were the Medicis and Borgias?

You seem to be missing the point of my responses.

They were all violent because society was violent.

Also, you must be religious.

Why else are you so critical?

All this shit about Mr A, Ms, B, Mr X, Y and Z is mighty confusing.

Post three graphs and a couple of pictures to make it fuckin clearer.

Ta.

Trafalgar wrote:

All this shit about Mr A, Ms, B, Mr X, Y and Z is mighty confusing.
Post three graphs and a couple of pictures to make it fuckin clearer.

WHAT??? A bright verbose legal mind like you can't keep track of a few paragraphs because the real names have been blanked out?

What a shame from a great legal mind such as yours. QC material you were. Before you started donning robes out of the courtrooms.


Tell me, puta roja, where were your graphs to explain why Lepanto and Vienna were proof of the Holy Papal Infallibility™ ?

Now tag along, and explain to me in what this dynastic saga of Lady X is proof the winged Holy Spirit smiles upon Roman Catholic Popery?

But since you didn't try to give a rational explanation to the obvious correlation between Roman Catholicism and underachievement among Western nations,

I'm not holding my breath for a coherent defense of popery from you.

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PistolPierre wrote:


Most scholars point to the 13th century as the beginning of the Renaissance. I don't really care about a precise date. When were the Medicis and Borgias?

Both rose to prominence in the 1400's.

Shouldn't you know the history of your own fucking continent?

Ta gueule, buffoon.

My continent? I'm American dickhead.

jeanv wrote:


Now tag along, and explain to me in what this dynastic saga of Lady X is proof the winged Holy Spirit smiles upon Roman Catholic Popery?

No, no, no. That's not the question, deranged fuck

The question is: 'For 5 K, what was the name of Lady X?'

I'm guessing Mariaza, or Maria, wife of Alberic or something similar. The details escape me and I can't be bothered to google. She gave rise to the legend of the female Pope Joan.

Can't wait for your next thread in which you present as fact extracts from Foxe's Book of Martyrs. lol

Clown.

PistolPierre wrote:

My continent? I'm American dickhead.

You're American dickhead? What the fuck is that? You don't know history that's fairly common knowledge to anyone with a hint of education, and you can't put together a readable sentence because you can't punctuate? Indeed, you are an American. An insufferable retard, but an American, none-the-less. American dickhead.

Fairly common knowledge my ass. There isn't a single kid in American public schools who has learned about the Medicis or Borgias. You are full of shit dickhead. Fuck your commas dickhead. My continent? Dick head.

Theodora? 870-916

PistolPierre wrote:

Fairly common knowledge my ass. There isn't a single kid in American public schools who has learned about the Medicis or Borgias. You are full of shit dickhead. Fuck your commas dickhead. My continent? Dick head.

LOL

On the other hand, where bizlah comes from, 100% of the kids in American public schools have already sold meth to make some pocket money.

I just got back from 7 AM Mass.

thought you were in RI not Mass

back on topic
The period was first identified and named by the Italian Cardinal and ecclesiastical historian Caesar Baronius in his Annales Ecclesiastici in the sixteenth century. Other scholars have dated the period more broadly or narrowly, and other terms, such as the Pornocracy (, from Greek pornokratiā, "prostitute rule") and the Rule of the Harlots (German: Hurenregiment), were coined by Protestant German theologians in the nineteenth century.
Historian Will Durant refers to the period from 867 to 1049 as the "nadir of the papacy

jeanv wrote:

Now tag along, and explain to me in what this dynastic saga of Lady X is proof the winged Holy Spirit smiles upon Roman Catholic Popery?

Trafalgar wrote:

No, no, no. (1) That's not the question. The question is: 'For 5 K, what was the name of Lady X?'

(2) I'm guessing Mariaza, or Maria, wife of Alberic or something similar. The details escape me and (3) I can't be bothered to google.

Now, that's quite a cute set of answers, you catho-nigger buffoon.

(1) in what exactly would a first question negate the ability to ask a second one?
and why would you try your damnedest to use that cheap trick to avoid that second question like the black plague?
Could it be because this dynastic saga of Lady X is not proof the winged Holy Spirit smiles upon Roman Catholic Popery?

(2) Oh, so you're 'guessing' marioza (as indeed it's her) after I mentioned clearly 'medieval times?
Could it be because there can't be a thousand whores who ran a Papal mafia family business between 800 and 1300 (give and take +/- 50)?

(3) You couldn't be bothered to google, and yet remembered the names Marioza and Alberic? Two possibilities:
a- you're so acutely ashamed of the shitty history of papacy you remembered their most prominent shitheads, or
b- you're such a liar you googled like crazy medieval+woman+many popes


Whichever. you're funny. So is the fat fag who calls himself a Roman Catholic and K'd your limp-wristed sorry excuse of an answer.


While we're at it, some questions, my dear Traffita:
- we do agree the Pope says don't take it up the cornhole, right?
- should one who still wants to repeatedly take it up the cornhole insist on calling himself a Roman Catholic?
- if so, would he somehow be trying to tell the Holy Pope he knows better than him?

But I would readily agree these complementary questions are not strictly my initial question about Marioza.

Who must have been quite a prize.

Assuming you don't prefer to take it up the cornhole.

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jeanv wrote:


(2) Oh, so you're 'guessing' marioza (as indeed it's her) after I mentioned clearly 'medieval times?

Well, it wasn't going to be post-Council of Trent, was it?

You know the Council of Trent? 16th century, the century conventionally deemed to be the first of the 'Modern Period'.

I know that for the same reason I was able to piss all over your shitty little game w/o google or wiki: I'm a History graduate., and I've long had a keen interest in religious history, particularly the Reformation.

Now would you like me to tell you where you went badly wrong with Weber? Well, guess what? Yep, you can fuck right off. It's so much more fun watching you make a cunt of yourself. After all, you do it so well!

jajajajaja

Now would you like me to tell you where you went badly wrong with Weber?

The Weber Joan of Arc smoker.

Those veg look like the lunch I just ate.

Took over an hour to prepare, and just under an hour to eat.

Crikey! I need a lie-down.