So now there are only 2 other paths I know of:

1. Ron Paul style, ignore them, come home and be neutral.

2. Nuke them, no US politician is going down that path. militarily defeating a billion people would be hard.

Your thoughts?

Kill them all with poo-poo germs.

Ron Paul has the right idea. They are never going to know true democracy as long as they are muslim. Best thing is to give them a wide berth and and stop meddling. That includes all $16 billion in foreign aid we give them now every fucking year.

democracy ONLY WORKS if the people are civilized!!!!

you CANNOT solve third world problems with a FIRST WORLD mentality!!!

others have also argued that democracy only works among those who believe in God

goodinfidel wrote:

others have also argued that democracy only works among those who believe in God

The Muslim countries go to shit when they let their religion run their country.

Marginalizing religious leaders to occasional proceedural prayers is better for the political needs of any country.

Seperation of church and state.

Can you imagine if we had religion mandated as law?

Jeramiah Right, Pat Robertson, Fred Phelps or Jerry Falwell as president?

TheMadPoet wrote:

goodinfidel wrote:

others have also argued that democracy only works among those who believe in God

The Muslim countries go to shit when they let their religion run their country.

Marginalizing religious leaders to occasional proceedural prayers is better for the political needs of any country.

Seperation of church and state.

Can you imagine if we had religion mandated as law?

Jeramiah Right, Pat Robertson, Fred Phelps or Jerry Falwell as president?

"God" as in the Christian God. There is no reason to pretend what we would be like under theocracy as theocracy is not a Christian precept. Secualr society is Christian in that God wishes for man to have a choice. Some founders argued that under a secular/free society mans choice to follow God would be the social/moral glue needed to hold that secular society together.

Allah is not God, but demands a theocracy, which is Satanic. Such Coersion is insufficient for liberty and progress

separation of church and state is to prevent theocracy, only...not to separate man from God

The Europeans were right: These people are not ready for democracy, and will not be until they abandon their vicious death cult. Until then, we should adopt of a policy of precision bombing to destroy anything more sophisticated than a rock in any muslim country that so much as burns a US or allied flag, confiscate their oil and leave them in the stone age where they belong and where they want to be. Fuck nation building, fuck trying to civilize these animals.

JFrum wrote:

Kill them all with poo-poo germs.

Fill that stuff into jars and sell it as nutella.

It worked in Japan. Of course, we had to nuke them first.

Ask LookieLou, he's enjoying the benefits of living in a country forced into modernity by the USMC and the Enola Gay.

The notion of liberal democracy, capitalism, autonomy in one's personal life and not to the state, a religion, is a mostly Western concept. The great classical liberal thinkers are mostly Western - Adam Smith, John Stuart Mill, the Founding Fathers, FA Hayek, Ludwig von Mises, Milton Friedman have this ancestry. Can anyone name any such thinkers from the ragfuck world?

Ragfucks have no concept of liberal democracy, capitalism, individual rights over the collective good etc. So fuck 'em. The lack thereof in the ragfuck world don't keep me awake at night and they don't threaten the existence of the US. So let them live in their medieval ways and only stomp them when they get out of line. There is a reason these people need a strong leader is because the ragfuck world is made up of retards who can't think for themselves and need an elite to do it for them.

Fuck Islam and fuck all ragfucks. Let them wallow in their backwardness.

Democracy ain't for ayrabs.

It's like .....teaching apes quantum physics, in which the chimps are likley to stick a pencil in your eyeball. Which pretty much has happened.

That is a lie. Bringing Democracy to Muslim Arabs has been a smashing success. The majority believe in implementing a radical form of Islam to their nations and they have voted it into office at every opportunity. That is Democracy - mob rule. You see the result of their successful democratic experiment on the streets now. If Democracy would not have been successful, leaders like Mubarak would be shooting them.

What the West wanted these countries to institute and they not been insistent upon it with the carrot and stick approach with aid and money is the implementation of a Democratic form of government WITH A CONSTITUTIONAL BILL OF RIGHTS Guaranteeing a comprehensive set of freedoms and liberties for all people. They are not capable of it, when the West was so indecisive about forcing it upon them due to political correctness. If the USA would have been so timid about spreading its ideals after WWII, people would still be walking around with brown suits in Germany and samurai swords in Japan.

What's needed is a FULL QUARRANTINE for all raghead countries and Africa.

Ragfucks are ragfucks. You can't change them. My friends who have deployed to Afghanistan and Iraq convinced themselves and myself that this is the case. One of them stated "I want to help them die!"

These people are set in their ways. Fuck 'em. Let them do what they want. When they start throwing a tantrum outside of their playpen, crush them. Other than that, minimal interaction with the ragfuck-goatfucker world.

Fill that stuff into jars and sell it as nutella.

That's not Nutella, it's Jenkum. It sells well in US inner cities to the Apefican-Americans.

people would still be walking around with brown suits in Germany

Hah. If only we were so lucky to have this today.

Yet Iraq is remarkably quiet.

I know. "NO WMDS!!!"

Shh.... You hear that?

attempt to bring democracy to the Arabs is half-hearted at best...

e.g. the last attack against the US consulate in Benghazi was an military action against a few defenseless people.

Crank up the C-130 gunships and when you see them gather, lay waste to the entire area. Fuck-um. I lost Friends on Sept 11, 2001 and still want more payback.

You kill 3000 of ours, we kill 30,000,000 of yours. Sounds fair...