Tozer spoke earlier of Native American tribal sex abuse of children, and I thought I would continue the topic to the Judaic tribe. As Tozer sought out to inform and educate us all on Native American issues, so I set out to inform the average American on Judaic issues.

www.nytimes.com . . .

An influential rabbi came last summer to the Brooklyn district attorney, Charles J. Hynes, with a message: his ultra-Orthodox advocacy group was instructing adherent Jews that they could report allegations of child sexual abuse to district attorneys or the police only if a rabbi first determined that the suspicions were credible.

Judaism overrules American law. Check (Gee don't the Jews say the same thing about Muzzies?)

Mr. Hynes has won election six times as district attorney thanks in part to support from ultra-Orthodox rabbis, who lead growing communities in neighborhoods like Borough Park and Crown Heights. But in recent years, as allegations of child sexual abuse have shaken the ultra-Orthodox Jewish community in Brooklyn, victims’ rights groups have expressed concern that he is not vigorously pursuing these cases because of his deep ties to the rabbis.

While corruption is not entirely jOOish, it's most certainly in effect here.

In 2009, as criticism of his record mounted, Mr. Hynes set up a program to reach out to ultra-Orthodox victims of child sexual abuse. Called Kol Tzedek (Voice of Justice in Hebrew), the program is intended to “ensure safety in the community and to fully support those affected by abuse,” his office said.

Little late to reach out to the victims of your protected Rabbis after they rape a kid, isn't Mr. Hynes?

In recent months, Mr. Hynes and his aides have said the program has contributed to an effective crackdown on child sexual abuse among ultra-Orthodox Jews, saying it had led to 95 arrests involving more than 120 victims.

I am sure that's a pathetic start in that community, but at least he tried something after ignoring it for so long.

At least three others were of ultra-Orthodox defendants who groped women on public transportation, including one Borough Park resident accused of placing his penis on a woman’s shoulder. The woman immediately called the transit police.

LOL. Just studying my torah miss, please ignore my penis.

This is so silly. jOOs are even worse than having Somalian niggers in our midsts.

But but but but but its TRADITION....


.... as they say.

Religion is a mental illness. So it's not surprising that they're into paedophilia as well. The only surprising thing is that so few of them get reported and even less of the perverts get put in jail.

That's really a big problem! Thanks god, the popist cult gives a shining example!

Not the jooos too!

But they're the chosen people, so this makes it OK, no?

I'm so confused.

Maybe I'll let others think for me.

Case of Rabbi Elior Chen

Rabbi Elior Chen and his followers are suspected of severely abusing two children, aged 3 and 4, who were savagely and systematically beaten with hammers, knives and other instruments for months until the younger child lost consciousness last month.

Rabbi Jerry BraunerRabbi Jerry Brauner (AKA: Yechiel Brauner)

Convicted on the charges of Sexual Abuse - 1st Degree, and Sexual Abuse - 3rd: Subject Another Person to Sex Contact Without Consent. He was sentenced to 11 years probation, with the condition he must participate in a sex offender treatment program. Brauner has been on probation since 2002 for the sexual abuse of a 15-year-old boy.

iamthewitness.com . . .

Fruits

What do call queer jews?

Wow, you've got me. Except for the fact that I've been posting here for a while saying the hareidim are twisted.

Altes is the one who put words in my mouth on the other thread by saying, joking?, brainfart?, that I advocated genocide. I never said anything like it. What I saw was ONE community that had a substantiated epidemic of child abuse. I advocated genocide like God advocated it when he purged Sodom with fire.

Now is child abuse an epidemic in the haredi community? What your post doesn't say is what are the number of incidents against the size of the community. Is there a larger than average incidence of deviance? Without that I'm not really sure what you're crowing about. Just the fact that you found any deviant Jews? Are you retarded?

As for the idea that Hareidim are representative of Jews as a whole rather than a cult of extremists. Here are some stats, yes actual statistics unlike your drivel, about their influence on the Jews as a whole.

Poll: Haredi parties distancing Jews from religion

By JEREMY SHARON

09/20/2012 01:31

Hiddush survey reveals 67% Jews feel haredim alienating public; 76% Jews unsatisfied with gov't handling of religious issues.

HAREDI MEN march to protest ‘Tal Law’ (a proposed law that requires them to serve in the military)

A new poll conducted for the Hiddush religious freedom lobbying group revealed that 67 percent of the Jewish population believes that the activities of haredi political parties distance the public from Judaism.

The poll also showed that 76% of the Jewish population is not satisfied with the government’s handling of religious issues, and 64%, including 56% of religious people, thinks discrimination against women in the public domain should be a criminal offense.

Hiddush’s fourth annual poll, conducted by the Rafi Smith group using a sample of 800 people, is a barometer of attitudes to issues of religion and state.

The organization’s director, Reform rabbi and attorney Uri Regev, said that the poll once again demonstrated an “unacceptable gap” between the stance of the public which wants freedom of religion and the position of the government which “dodges any confrontation with the haredi parties.”

“The public wants mandatory [national] service for everyone, core curriculum subjects [to be taught to all school children], civil marriages, public transport on Shabbat, cutting benefits for yeshiva students and a struggle against discrimination against women,” Regev continued.

Instead of this, he said, the public is getting “at best incompetence and at worst political deals and machinations” between the two haredi parties, Shas and United Torah Judaism.

Further trends recorded by the poll showed an increase in support for freedom of religion and conscience, from 79% in January 2010 to 85% in the current survey.

Additionally, 56% of the Jewish population thinks that religion and state should be separated completely, and 65% is disturbed by the influence of the haredi parties on such issues.

Several requests for comment made to haredi members of Knesset by The Jerusalem Post were unanswered.

Shaul Farber, an Orthodox rabbi and director of the ITIM religious rights advocacy group, said that haredi parties are a reality of the democratic process.

“The challenge is to have the religious establishment take a klal yisrael – all Jews – perspective rather than a myopic one.

Religious functionaries have been corrupted by their perceived power and all too often don’t serve the general public in a meaningful way,” the rabbi said.

Regarding the issue of haredi national service, 83% of the Jewish population believes that yeshiva students should be obligated to perform some form of military or national service, according to the poll, and 72% said they opposed the claim that Torah study in yeshivot and not military service provides Israel with security.

Just over than 70% of those responding to the poll said that haredi-secular tensions constitute either the most or second-most serious inter-communal tensions in the country.

Other findings revealed that 63% of the non-haredi population and 57% of the general Jewish population think that the haredi sector benefits from positive discrimination in the distribution of state welfare benefits in relation to their own sector.

Seventy-eight percent supported a reduction in state support for yeshivot and families with large numbers of children in order to encourage haredi men to join the work force.

www.jpost.com . . .

I have also said that I don't see a middle east full of these guys as any different than a middle east full of Muslims.

And as for the inevitable brit milah controversy, I am fully in favor of regulation as NY State is proposing.

Yes, the Jews were Chosen just as Christians were for salvation. Get a fucking clue.

the Jewish catch 22....Free ham

Tozer makes a lot of sense. As for circumcision. Males should only be circumcized when they are adults when they can make an informed choice. With the rare exception for children where it is medically necessary.

AmericanLaFrance wrote:

Tozer makes a lot of sense. As for circumcision. Males should only be circumcized when they are adults when they can make an informed choice. With the rare exception for children where it is medically necessary.

Part of the problem is their religious belief that circumcision is a mortal requirement in order to attain divine acceptance.

You will never get the jews to agree on this one regardless of their ridiculous arguments.

The barbaric practice didn't kill enough of their babies early in their history to ban it from their scriptures.

Lord_Haw_Haw wrote:

the Jewish catch 22....Free ham

The He-Whore Conundrum...

Before I say anything else, I want to apologize to Tozer. In all seriousness I am not attacking you personally. Well, I did yesterday but it's not about you personally. I am sorry I attacked you.

Understand I am sick and tired of pissing away trillions of dollars, thousands of lives, and listening to corrupt ass bought and paid for out of Tel Aviv American politicians telling us how we need to do more for that abomination called Pissrael. If Netyanasshole managed to pull this country into war for Pissrael again, I am signing up for the other side.

This shit needs to end. If the fucking Pissraelis want war with the Persians then let them go and make war. Keep us the fuck out of it once and for all.

Hopefully they will both nuke each other off the face of the Earth and the rest of us can just get on with our lives.

Wow, you've got me. Except for the fact that I've been posting here for a while saying the hareidim are twisted.

Tozer without being personal it's not about you. Since you were not one of the multitudes of Hebes arrested for screwing your own children I am guessing you don't partake in that particular joo fetish?

Altes is the one who put words in my mouth on the other thread by saying, joking?, brainfart?, that I advocated genocide. I never said anything like it. What I saw was ONE community that had a substantiated epidemic of child abuse. I advocated genocide like God advocated it when he purged Sodom with fire.

Take up your arguments with Altes then. I saw you post about another racial group's problems with child sexual abuse and I pointed your hooked nose back to the mirror. What the hell are you talking about genocide? I never said anything about that man.

Now is child abuse an epidemic in the haredi community? What your post doesn't say is what are the number of incidents against the size of the community. Is there a larger than average incidence of deviance? Without that I'm not really sure what you're crowing about. Just the fact that you found any deviant Jews? Are you retarded?

Tozer you aren't an idiot. That community is rather small and there are already almost 100 arrests by a DA who is bought and paid for by that community. Do you think there might be a problem there?