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re: Canada Condemns 'Racist' Conan O'Brien TV Show -- whatta hoot!! (karma: 1)  en>fr fr>en
By FranceBlows Comments: 99, member since Sun Feb 16, 2003
On Fri Feb 13, 2004 09:05 PM
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Conan O'Brien show's anti-Quebec barbs anger Ottawa politicians

TORONTO (CP) - A TV comedy sketch in which a snarky puppet took potshots at French Canadians was called racist and unfunny by some federal politicians Friday while the visiting American TV host who ignited the controversy acknowledged the trouble the comments have caused.


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The incident also raised the ire of Quebec nationalist group Societe Saint-Jean-Baptiste, which demanded an apology from the politicians who brought Late Night With Conan O'Brien to Toronto.


In Ottawa, Mauril Belanger - the deputy government house leader - told the House of Commons that the government finds nothing amusing about the NBC show host making fun of Quebecers.


NDP MP Alexa McDonough said the sketch featuring Triumph the Insult Comic Dog was "vile and vicious" and amounted to hate-mongering and that the feds should demand their money back.


"The whole point of trying to help deal with the devastation of the SARS (news - web sites) crisis on the city of Toronto was to attract tourists," McDonough said. "How it got morphed into this kind of garbage I don't know."


O'Brien weighed in during the taping of his final show in Toronto on Friday afternoon.


"For those who don't know me, I'm the guy that was hired to make Don Cherry look good," he said in his opening monologue. He was referring to the trouble the hockey commentator's in for suggesting French-Canadian and European hockey players are wimps for wearing visors.


While federal politicians expressed outrage about Triumph, there was little response from their Quebec counterparts as coverage of the funeral of former provincial Liberal leader Claude Ryan dominated newscasts.


Premier Jean Charest declined to comment, and the program's audience in the province is limited. But the president of Societe Saint-Jean-Baptiste was not amused with what he called the show's "extreme vulgarity."


"It's wrong to spread the worst possible ethnic prejudices about Quebecers, which already exist in Canada," said Jean Dorion.


"It seems the governments of Canada, Ontario and Toronto sponsored it," he said of the show. "If that's the case, these administrations must dissociate themselves immediately from the program and apologize to Quebecers, who are indignant at its contents."


The NBC show Late Night came to Toronto this week with the help of $1 million in taxpayers' money, some from the province of Ontario, some from a federal fund set up to help Toronto's tourist industry recover from SARS.


CHUM Television, which carries the show in Ontario, expressed regrets and said it was excising the Triumph sketch from the Friday night re-broadcast on Star, its national channel.


O'Brien has been taping this week at the downtown Elgin Theatre where thousands of young audience members have hooted and hollered their way through the nightly shows. The lanky red-headed comic has delighted them with monologues and sketches that riffed on Canadian themes, from beer to hockey to Mounties.


But on the Thursday show, Late Night regular Triumph - a cigar-chomping, politically incorrect puppet - was dispatched to the Quebec winter carnival in a pre-taped segment that took on Quebecers in general and separatists in particular.


"So you're French and Canadian, yes? So you're obnoxious and dull," the puppet told one passerby. "You're in North America, learn the language," he hollered at another.


In Quebec City, Stephen Harper also sought to distance himself from O'Brien and his puppet.





"This is the place where our country was founded nearly 400 years ago," said Harper, who is seeking the leadership of the new Conservative party. "We can all make jokes about each other but you don't start telling people in Quebec they have to speak another language."

"That's completely unacceptable."

However, businessman Peter Soumalias, who helped bring the New York-based show to Toronto, says some politicians may not understand comedy but the people of Quebec do. "Quebec is home to the Just For Laughs festival; they understand comedy," he said.

"It was funny and this was about comedy," says Soumalias. "It's a silly puppet that tells silly jokes. Again, it's comedy. Most people find it funny."

Indeed, Bruce Hills, Just For Laughs CEO in Montreal didn't find Triumph offensive because he doesn't take him seriously.

"The sensibility of a young francophone who has a sense of humour, who spends a lot of time outside Quebec, I think will take it for what it is - a funny sketch."

Ontario Premier Dalton McGuinty says he doesn't regret the province's role in helping to bring the show to Toronto and points to the "net positive" spinoff in publicity. But he also wants it known that Triumph's brand of humour is not reflective of how Ontario feels about Quebec.

"That does not represent our views with respect to our neighbours," he said Friday. "The Conan O'Brien show does not speak for Ontarians. Ontarians have a wonderful relationship with the people of Quebec. We don't control the content of these shows."

"There were moments where it was a little raw," said Jonathan Laderoute, 24, who came from Ottawa to line up outside the Elgin for Friday's show, although he added that he didn't find the sketch too offensive.

"No one's ever said it before that way," Laderoute said. "Canadians seem really politically sensitive. They always make a big deal of everything. Take it for what it is."

He said Triumph's shtick is to push boundaries, but the difficulty in Canada is francophone issues seem to be off-limits.

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Some one-liners from Conan O'Brien's monologue Friday night:

On controversy erupting from the show's jabs at Quebecers: "I'm the guy they hired to make Don Cherry look good."

On repeated cheers from the audience of 'Go Leafs Go!: "When they like a joke here, they say: 'Ha, ha, ha. Go Leafs Go!' "

On reports of fans smoking joints while waiting to see the show: "When asked why, a fan said, 'We want Conan to be funny whether he's funny or not.' "

On reports people should drink three litres of fluid a day and that some of it can be beer: "The Canadian doctors said Labatt's is a good choice but if you prefer water, drink Budweiser."

On returning to New York after a week of Canadian shows: "Sadly, it is time for me to get back to my wife and baby in New York. But don't you worry, I'll come back soon to visit my wife and baby in Toronto."

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Some quotes from the show and the fallout:

"So you're French and Canadian, yes? So you're obnoxious and dull." - Triumph the Insult Dog, a puppet regular on O'Brien's show.

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"We can all make jokes about each other but you don't start telling people in Quebec they have to speak another language. That's completely unacceptable." - Stephen Harper, former Alliance leader now running for leadership of the new Conservative party.

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"It's a silly puppet that tells silly jokes. Again, it's comedy. Most people find it funny."- O'Brien promoter, Peter Soumalias, a Toronto businessman.

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"That's not something I would have laughed at," - Ontario Premier Dalton McGuinty.

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"I think it was vile and vicious. I think it amounts to hate-mongering." - Alexa McDonough, NDP member of Parliament.

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"We offer our apology and assurance that it is never our intention to air programming that offends any of our viewers," - CHUM Television.

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"It's a guy's hand, that's all I got to say. They shouldn't listen to puppets." - a man in the Elgin Theatre lineup disguised as Robert Goulet.

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"People are too sensitive." - University of Guelph student Craig Hobin of Sarnia, Ont., speaking from the Elgin lineup.

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"I don't watch that stuff. I don't stay up that late and I wouldn't watch that stuff if I did stay up that late."- Former Ontario premier David Peterson.

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"It's wrong to spread the worst possible ethnic prejudices about Quebecers, which already exist in Canada." - Jean Dorion, president of the nationalist Societe Saint-Jean-Baptiste.
re: Canada Condemns 'Racist' Conan O'Brien TV Show -- whatta hoot!! (karma: 3)  en>fr fr>en
By AntiFrench Comments: 50249, member since Sat Aug 25, 2001
On Fri Feb 13, 2004 09:23 PM
The audience in Toronto was loving it! Seems they hate the french too!


K's around for this incredible thread. Almost brought a tear to my eye when I saw my fellow non-FROG Canadian people tell it like it is when it comes to the degenerates, everybody hates.. THE FROGS!
Rescyou (karma: 2)  en>fr fr>en
By booyaahmember has saluted, click to view salute photos Comments: 13449, member since Fri Feb 21, 2003
On Fri Feb 13, 2004 09:36 PM
K+ A


I live in Buffalo NY and used to spend alot of time drinking in Canada. I have no problem witht the majority of Canadians. I used to go sleddin ( snowmobilin) with alot of em. They are some pretty cool people. But you get them talking about french-Canadians and most of them wanna go kick some ass!
re: Canada Condemns 'Racist' Conan O'Brien TV Show -- whatta hoot!! en>fr fr>en
By I_brake_4_camels Comments: 12978, member since Thu Feb 13, 2003
On Fri Feb 13, 2004 09:45 PM
This is the only free country I know where you get arrested for having a non-french sign in your window.


Can you believe they insisted on french-signage in freakin CHINA TOWN? It's SUPPOSED to have Chinese signs you can't read; that's part of the experience!!!

Anyway, welcome and here's a K+ for a great post.
re: Canada Condemns 'Racist' Conan O'Brien TV Show -- whatta hoot!! en>fr fr>en
By odioFrancia Comments: 23441, member since Wed Feb 26, 2003
On Fri Feb 13, 2004 09:58 PM
You know why Canada didn't go to Iraq?? How bout a french dominated federal government. I live in the West and when Iraq started up, there were more American Flags in my town then there were Canadian. To me stopping a murderous madman that intentionally kills/rapes/tortures/gasses/melts/beheads/boils/debowels women and children is pretty much a reason to kick his butt, weapons of mass destruction or not.


Rescyou:
Welcome, I'm from the West of the US and I always felt like Canadians were a lot like us. It's the weirdo Quebequois that are screwed up.
re: Canada Condemns 'Racist' Conan O'Brien TV Show -- whatta hoot!! (karma: 3)  en>fr fr>en
By Rescyou Comments: 44, member since Fri Feb 13, 2004
On Fri Feb 13, 2004 10:06 PM
There are many things to be P.O.'d about. For instance, in Canada farmers cannot sell their grain crops, Everyone must sell to one place, "The Canadian Wheat Board", you get what they give you and it's illegal to sell anywhere else.. I guess I shouldn't say all farmers, the farmers in Cue-Bec and Ontario can do what they want with it.

Check this out:

www.cbc.ca . . .

It's pretty sad that farmers get arrested because of trying to gain equality with the "masteur race". It's a federal law so odds are they'de be spending some quality time in an Eastern Pen. and hopefully they don't end up in the same cell as Philipe, the guy that dresses up a latex rubber chicken suit and has "anycockadoo" shaved into his matted wad of chest hair, the same guy who is pretty democratic about things, and offers you the choice of being the mamma or the papa and you think you have it made when you choose "Papa" until he states: "Why don't ya come on over and suckeur your mama's Pene' " This guy is widely known as he is one of the only guys on the planet that has an ass camel toe..

I think I like this site.

R.
re: Canada Condemns 'Racist' Conan O'Brien TV Show -- whatta hoot!! (karma: 1)  en>fr fr>en
By Chirac_estun_ver Comments: 16946, member since Sun Mar 30, 2003
On Fri Feb 13, 2004 10:07 PM
At one point in the show, Triumph the Insult Comic Dog -- a hand puppet that is a regular on the show -- said to a Quebecer: "You're French, you're obnoxious and you no speekay English." It told another: "I can smell your crotch from here."

O'Brien's team were also shown replacing street signs in the province with those that read "Quebecqueer Street" and "Rue des Pussies."


LMAO! A very fair assessment.

I love the Conan O'Brian show. I'll never forget when he went to Ireland and taught an irish grade school class about famous Irish Americans like Shaquille O'Neal.
re: Canada Condemns 'Racist' Conan O'Brien TV Show -- whatta hoot!! en>fr fr>en
By odioFrancia Comments: 23441, member since Wed Feb 26, 2003
On Fri Feb 13, 2004 10:07 PM
Actually it was the best sketch I ever seen.


Yeah, it was the best TV I may have ever seen. It was FANTASTIC TV.

It was 8 to 10 minutes of comedic greatness!
re: Canada Condemns 'Racist' Conan O'Brien TV Show -- whatta hoot!! en>fr fr>en
By DayBreakBoys Comments: 9790, member since Wed Feb 12, 2003
On Fri Feb 13, 2004 10:16 PM
"It's wrong to spread the worst possible ethnic prejudices about Quebecers, which already exist in Canada," said Jean Dorion.


HAHA! Here's some more brilliance from Triumph!

* Triumph eviscerates a number of popular musicians and celebrities at the 2003 Billboard Music Awards. His rants, particularly suggestions about the sexuality of American Idol runner-up Clay Aitken, are met with stony silence or nervous laughter from most in the audience.

* Triumph approaches Eminem at the 2002 MTV Music Awards in an attempt to diss the rap star. Eminem's bodyguards rush the puppet as a stone-faced Eminem threatens him with physical violence.

* At the 2001 MTV Music Awards, Triumph asks Jennifer Lopez if he can enjoy a whiff of perhaps the best-known part of her anatomy. "For a dog, it's like climbing Mount Everest!" he shouts.

* As he fills in for the weatherman on a Hawaiian newscast in 2002, Triumph rants about the warm and sunny forecast for the state. "I am just going to say what everyone else in America is thinking: Hawaii, you're a pussy!"

* Triumph takes a run at American Idol host Simon Cowell during a 2003 Late Night show. "What's with the '80s hairstyle ... get a lawyer and sue Supercuts!" he says. On Cowell's sometimes nasty treatment of American Idol contestants, Triumph says: "You go on and you tell people that they have no talent? That's like poop telling vomit: 'You stink!"'

* In 2001, Jon Bon Jovi tells Triumph how he may be appearing in a movie in which he plays a blood-sucking vampire. Triumph replies: "Finally, a role that requires you to suck!"
re: Canada Condemns 'Racist' Conan O'Brien TV Show -- whatta hoot!! (karma: 1)  en>fr fr>en
By I_brake_4_camels Comments: 12978, member since Thu Feb 13, 2003
On Fri Feb 13, 2004 10:17 PM
I am sooooo bummed I missed it.
re: Canada Condemns 'Racist' Conan O'Brien TV Show -- whatta hoot!! en>fr fr>en
By odioFrancia Comments: 23441, member since Wed Feb 26, 2003
On Fri Feb 13, 2004 10:22 PM
Camel:
A man of your stature has TIVO, right? Actually, it might be the other way around.

Anyway, I'll bet you can find it. If I'm not mistaken it's repeated on Comedy Central the day after, but I might have dreamed that.

I archived it, it was so good. Last night I was going wild!
re: Canada Condemns 'Racist' Conan O'Brien TV Show -- whatta hoot!! en>fr fr>en
By kassaq Comments: 6647, member since Fri Feb 28, 2003
On Fri Feb 13, 2004 11:21 PM
"It's a guy's hand, that's all I got to say. They shouldn't listen to puppets." - a man in the Elgin Theatre lineup disguised as Robert Goulet.

This guy has more sense than all the hypersensitive Frenchies in Quebec.
re: Canada Condemns 'Racist' Conan O'Brien TV Show -- whatta hoot!! en>fr fr>en
By odioFrancia Comments: 23441, member since Wed Feb 26, 2003
On Fri Feb 13, 2004 11:35 PM
Well, Conan's last show in Canada went off without a hitch. The folks in Toronto love him like no US audience does.

And the skit about Quebec will live in the COMEDY HALL OF FAME!

It is greatness on so many levels, but above all BASHING THE FUCKING FRENCH!
re: Canada Condemns 'Racist' Conan O'Brien TV Show -- whatta hoot!! en>fr fr>en
By I_brake_4_camels Comments: 12978, member since Thu Feb 13, 2003
On Sat Feb 14, 2004 01:10 AM
A man of your stature has TIVO, right?


TIVO? Hell, I'm still trying to get my wireless net up and running, and my DVD player is still blinking 12:00.... And the cat hid the remote, somewhere... TIVO is light years off for me.
re: Canada Condemns 'Racist' Conan O'Brien TV Show -- whatta hoot!! en>fr fr>en
By Alaoue Comments: 17879, member since Wed Jan 08, 2003
On Sat Feb 14, 2004 02:03 AM
IF WELL-TRAINED AND GROOMED, KEBEKWAS MAY BECOME GOOD HOUSE-SERVANTS -- OF COURSE, THEY'D HAVE TO LEARN A BROKEN ENGLISH OF SOME KIND IN ORDER TO UNDERSTAND ORDERS, BUT EVEN DOGS UNDERSTAND -- THAT'S WHAT THE ANGLOS REFUSED TO DO, BY SHEER "HUMANISM". THEY WERE WRONG. IT TAKES A LONG TIME TO HELP NATIVES BECOME GOOD OBEDIENT SERVANTS; I GUESS CANADIANS WILL HAVE, IN THE NEAR FUTURE, TO START ALL OVER AGAIN FROM SCRATCH!
re: Canada Condemns 'Racist' Conan O'Brien TV Show -- whatta hoot!! en>fr fr>en
By TrickyGringo Comments: 427, member since Fri Apr 18, 2003
On Sat Feb 14, 2004 02:07 AM
So I had my ReplayTV (Non-Tivo DVR) search the Conan shows and the damn Meg Ryan and the Will Ferrel episodes come up 4 times each but no Adam Sandler. I'm pissed.
re: Canada Condemns 'Racist' Conan O'Brien TV Show -- whatta hoot!! en>fr fr>en
By NiqueTaBush Comments: 1984, member since Sat Feb 15, 2003
On Sat Feb 14, 2004 09:27 AM
Plenty guys barking against Anti-Anglo-Nazi-Quebec and, in the meantime, showing ZERO tolerance for what is different.

Strange.

A coke, a big mac and no brain for everyone.

Speak white, or you'll be considered as a terrorist !
re: Canada Condemns 'Racist' Conan O'Brien TV Show -- whatta hoot!! en>fr fr>en
By lavachequirit Comments: 438, member since Fri Feb 21, 2003
On Sat Feb 14, 2004 09:31 AM
Edited by lavachequirit (57528) on 2004-02-14 09:32:09
"So I had my ReplayTV (Non-Tivo DVR) search the Conan shows and the damn Meg Ryan and the Will Ferrel episodes come up 4 times each but no Adam Sandler. I'm pissed."

what can you expect from any individual from a nation of tv watcher? they are all brainwashed stupid monkeys in front of their tube with 500 channels, they do what the tv tell them to even go get a life, oh wait thats his monitor connecting to the net, you feel sorry for them living their pathetic life that this site is a testament of what they really are
re: Canada Condemns 'Racist' Conan O'Brien TV Show -- whatta hoot!! (karma: 1)  en>fr fr>en
By lavachequirit Comments: 438, member since Fri Feb 21, 2003
On Sat Feb 14, 2004 09:45 AM
"K's around for this incredible thread. Almost brought a tear to my eye when I saw my fellow non-FROG Canadian people tell it like it is when it comes to the degenerates, everybody hates.. THE FROGS!"

ANTIFRENCH

of course the king of them all is impersonized as ANTIFRENCH the lowest form of life that you can encounter in the net. This individual identifies himself as a mass murderer taking his picture from AP and edit it with photoshop that is illegally registered to his pseudonym: "DUCKY". This individual must be a senile, he is confined to a wheelchair, in a senior care center for the mental unstable sufferer. He cannot hurt a fly so you have to feel his sorryness for beeing completely harmless to his environment, the only recourse he has it's the net that care pourveyors at his institution let him use at will.
re: Canada Condemns 'Racist' Conan O'Brien TV Show -- whatta hoot!! en>fr fr>en
By AntiFrench Comments: 50249, member since Sat Aug 25, 2001
On Sat Feb 14, 2004 09:49 AM
This individual identifies himself as a mass murderer taking his picture from AP and edit it with photoshop that is illegally registered to his pseudonym:


HUH?? LMAO!! Stay off the crack pipe, dirtbag FROG! The whole world hates you stupid fuckers and it was just confirmed (again)! I told ya.. I learned to hate you stupid, surrender monkey bastards (with genes from filthy FROG whores), because I was raised in an country that really knows FROGS for who they are (besides having a good knowledge of your true history of merde)! YOU ARE CRAP!
re: Canada Condemns 'Racist' Conan O'Brien TV Show -- whatta hoot!! en>fr fr>en
By lavachequirit Comments: 438, member since Fri Feb 21, 2003
On Sat Feb 14, 2004 09:55 AM
tantrum throwing is bad for your health condition old fart, keep the tension down or I teach you some good manners
re: Canada Condemns 'Racist' Conan O'Brien TV Show -- whatta hoot!! en>fr fr>en
By NiqueTaBush Comments: 1984, member since Sat Feb 15, 2003
On Sat Feb 14, 2004 09:56 AM
Salut lavache, ça va ?

On s'est tous bagarré avec l'abruti un jour ou l'autre, mais c'est sans intérêt. Je suis sûr que tu as bien mieux a faire de ton temps.
C'est en fait un groupe de mecs qui écrit sous son pseudo. Le but est le même qu'un chauffeur de salle de spectacle : entrainer les moutons dans le mouvement.
Quel individu normalement constitué irait ecrire près de 30000 posts ?
(Remarque, tout est possible dans ce monde !)

Cordialement.

K+ pour la pertinence, lavache.
re: Canada Condemns 'Racist' Conan O'Brien TV Show -- whatta hoot!! en>fr fr>en
By lavachequirit Comments: 438, member since Fri Feb 21, 2003
On Sat Feb 14, 2004 10:04 AM
j'avais remarqué, c'était pour tester sa reaction, c'est un vrai amuseur de foule cet energumene. il est bon pour la vache de bouse le chie dessus
re: Canada Condemns 'Racist' Conan O'Brien TV Show -- whatta hoot!! en>fr fr>en
By AntiFrench Comments: 50249, member since Sat Aug 25, 2001
On Sat Feb 14, 2004 10:06 AM
tantrum throwing is bad for your health condition old fart


That wasn't a tantrum, but an average FROG bashing.

BTW... I am not even close to being an old man. Continue to eat shit, FROG bastard! Why don't you people have the balls to really separate yourselves from the rest of Canada? What's the matter? Afraid to lose the $6 billion a year that you milk from the rest of Non-FROG Canadians to the West! YOU ARE FILTHY WHORES and need to leave! We just keep you around so we can laugh at you!
re: Canada Condemns 'Racist' Conan O'Brien TV Show -- whatta hoot!! en>fr fr>en
By lavachequirit Comments: 438, member since Fri Feb 21, 2003
On Sat Feb 14, 2004 10:52 AM
"BTW... I am not even close to being an old man. Continue to eat shit, FROG bastard! Why don't you people have the balls to really separate yourselves from the rest of Canada? What's the matter? Afraid to lose the $6 billion a year that you milk from the rest of Non-FROG Canadians to the West! YOU ARE FILTHY WHORES and need to leave! We just keep you around so we can laugh at you!"

no way captain, we like sticking in canada to piss english canada till the end of TIME, and i piss on you too, old fart Tony.
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