"Not our fault they love NAZI DICKS!"

=> YOU GOT IT : Nice, Brand new and so lovely : Your personal GODWIN POINT !

word used : "NAZI"

www.linux-france.org . . .
(BTW you lost...)

Great post RestonsCourtois. Just an add to what you said:


<b>- World War I - Tied and on the way to losing, France is saved by the United States. Thousands of French women find out what it's like to not only sleep with a winner, but one who doesn't call her "Fraulein." Sadly, widespread use of condoms by American forces forestalls any improvement in the French bloodline.

I'm surprised you forget the British whose role was far more important then the United Statians. France lost 1,5 millions men (upon 8 millions soldiers and a total population of 40 millions)
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Without their allies, French army fought against 1,5 germans for 1 french. Without GB and Belgium help, France would had lost. Allies were winning anyway when the first american came in France, don't miss this. It is a fact, the strategie of both german and french etat major was already changed at this time, in favor of the french. It is also a fact that most american soldier received their weapon from the french army. But anyway, it is a fact too that USA engagement saved a lot of allies lives, and shorted the war a lot.


<b>-World War II - Lost. Conquered French liberated by the United States and Britain just as they finish learning the Horst Wessel Song.

You forget the Russian and Canadian, and of course the contribution of the free french.
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To my point of view, american did not saved us from NAZI, who were already loosing against red army, but from this red army. The russians did 96% of the effective job to destroy the NAZI power.

"Well, it's nice to see that the Americans here have a sense of humour even if they lack a sense of irony. Speaking of the French as being prone to surrender is a little rich coming from a country whose army was basically a mob with a few rusty muskets until the French intervened in their war of independence and defeated the ros-bifs for them."

What an ignorant fuck. French forces never made up more than a small minority of the fielded forces, and they only came on board after the tide of war had turned at Saratoga, Bennington, King's Mountain, and Cowpens. True, they supplied arms (so we could kill the British, as opposed to the Frogs dying doing it themselves). And no doubt the war ending when it did, rather than two years later, was the result of DeGrasse's well-executed blockade and defeat of the British fleet off the Peninsula. thanks for the small potatoes. It never ceases to amaze me just how ignorant our supposedly more cultured and sophisticated European cousins are when it comes to American history. You should study more than the history of your own navels.

In fact, French troops only made an apprarance in real numbers (though still small) after we defeated the

We should all be ashamed of so many unjustified and crual wars (follow my eyes ... WW1 for example). Instead of that, nobody in this thread can imagine that he might be one day called in the army to fight another (dangerous) country (not an unarmed one like Iraq).
Our armies are professional, but don't forget every citizen can one day have to go to war. Even me. Even you.
You'd better do all that you can for peace.

Forza, don't even try to explain true things to war-minded people !
they're just here to crap on each other's face !
Be like me brother, laugh at them (especially to my GODWIN hero : ANTI-FRENCH !!!)
I want to marry him !


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Ouais mais j'avais envie de le dire, ça m'fait plaisir de dire un truc intelligent hors de leur portée Un peu comme qd on parle en français quoi

(au fait, dans mon pseudo, c'ets plutôt "Momo" le truc à ressortir

Iraq isn't one of the greatest threats out there when it comes to delivering terrorist type weapons. Pakistan, Saudi Arabia (no one believes in their alliance anymore), Iran, N. Korea eventually, former Ussr weapons proliferation...

I'm probably passing over quite a few. Just attacking Iraq makes no sense in that means. If the capability to make these exist in Iraq, and they had a will to proliferate it it would be done already. If not then sites that are being developped have to be found and surveillance can do just that.

Personnally, I think the US is going in for the oil. Period. But to be credible now, when they replace the Iraqi regime, they will have to help create a new, more democratic one.

There are hundreds of religious minorities in Iraq. Including Christians. Good luck.

Of course if the US does not do this and just stations troops to protect the oil wells (as I suspect they will), letting the populations sort out their conflicts as they are doing now in Afghanistan, then the world will know exactly why the US went to Iraq.

Just a reminder. There is oil in Afghanistan. Experts here pointed out how odd it was that the places the US searched for Ben Laden correspond exactly with the existence of known oil wells.

China protested because the oil in Afghanistan is the same as theirs. Pump it out of China or Afghanistan, same oil.

Again, intriguing isn't it?

MOMO,

-=# Oussama, champion du monde du Spare ! #=-


Ici, c'est Paris !
Ici, c'est Paris !
;D

I am fed up to read on all your comments that the French army only surrender during WWII.
If you like facts :
Here are the casualties of the French army between may and june 1940 (two month):
Dead : 123.000
Wounded : 300 000

That’s facts.

And I think those men who gave their life deserve a little more respect from people who will take pleasure from watching dead people on CNN.
War is not a game. That’s what France is trying desperately to teach to your infantile President.

If only George W had eaten a bigger Bretzel…

French INVADED England in 1066
English try to tell Guillaume was from Norway...(William)
In fact Guillaume le Conquérant was FRENCH since 3 generation
and Spoke FRENCH not Norweigian...

English LOOSER will speak French for 3 century
and British Monarchist racist are descendant of FRENCH

Philipe Auguste BEAT English and Flamish twit at Bouvine 1200

France WIN the Hundred Years War...English were EXPELL
from France.

France DEFEATED the mulsim army with Charles Martel.

France DEFEAT almost every continental country in Europe
By foot and by horse...American only kill with air plane...

France Navy DEFEAT the English Navy TWICE in the Chesapeak BAy
Winning the most important battle of the age of sail !!! in 1781
in front of Yorktown
What was more important then the Freedom of the USA ???
Trafalgar is just pure bullshit... De Grasse is the Best
sailor. He change the history and brought democracy.

In 1755 Beaulieu with 300 french DEFEAT 1300 English moron
who attack them. Beaulieu kill 1000 of them (Braddock DEFEAT)
In 1754 Montcalm BEAT Munroe at Fort William-HEnry (The last of the Mohican BAttle)
In 1755 Montcalm DEFEAT Abercrombie 15 000 man, Montcalm is just
1200...Abercrombie soldier get massacre.
Lévis BEAT the English in front of québec in 1760
The British Colonist and British Tugs plan ethnic cleansing and plan to kill civilian all over Québec if Québec don't fall
After 7 years of war and 3 Month battle Quéebec fall
A Million Collonist and British pig took 7 years to overcome
60 000 french...

Did you Learn about the British concentration camps in South africa where Bitish starve to death 24 000 civilian ???
In a Boer war British had started !!!
(only 100 years ago)

Did you learn the way British used Small pox to kill Indian
Children...

It took 2 country to Beat Napoleon at Waterloo
British want you to forget about Blutcher...
90 000 german where at Waterloo
80 000 British
and 80 000 French...It was 2 against 1 !!!!
And British moron think they are better then us...


You wrote :
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The french supported naval help in the Revolution. Not troops. Though 1

person, Lafayette, hardly counts as "French troops"
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That's not true:
De Grasse beat the British Navy, D'Estaing Scare Clinton away from

Philadelphia and freeing Washington army at ValleyForges
French Help was much more then just navy, The Army of Rochambeau and

Vilomenil was on the ground and of the 2 redoubt cease at
Yorktown 1 was taken by the French alone (the french of Viloménil) and

the other by the ''american general'' Lafayette
with the support of a Quebecers named Clément Gosselin
who got severely hurt in the assault
You are taking to an expert on this...I know more then you
And the gun were taken to you by the Acadien Douville at St-Pierre and

Miquelon, While french secret service was giving
boat load of gold to the american congress to built his army
Not only did MORE french die at Yorktown (Some 70 soldier in the final

assault)
You see you were told lie by you're school system.
Without the french you're american army would have gone nowhere
With no money to pay for clothes, gun or any supply
De Grasse brought gold from cuba to paid Washington troops at
Yorktown (rent the movies The Patriot with mel gibson)
John Paul Jones was getting help from every french port
Basicaly you would not be a free country without us
So whose the ungratefull moron here ???

You said:
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France got destroyed by the Vietnamese also. The Us could have won any

war. Hands were tied though. Which is good. It was a lost war, I admit

that.
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French made war to the Vietnamese ARMY. Not their civilian
population !!! Contrary to you're GI killing and burning
civilian villages all over vietnam. (3 fucking millions dear !)
You're hand were not tied dear. You use every shity weapon
you could including flame thrower on civilian
But the Vietnamese were not surrendering and you own people
got enough of you're stupid blood bath and the racist bullshit
you're soldier were doing to them (Rape, torture etc...)
Giving up when you act like crazy maniac and fashist is
call LOOSING. YOU LOST in vietnam swallow it.
You could not win in Corea either and you got beat in Somalia.
So don't bullshit france because we lost one imposible fight
against nazi germany. It took five years with Russian and Chineese and

Canada and Quebecers to prevail.
Don't run around like a moron insulting French.
You're looser too. The difference we didn't kill 3 millions
civilian in Vietnam but YOU DID.

You wrote:
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The blood of innocents is shed in every war. Accept it. With our news

weapons much less innocents will die. Besides, Saddamm kills his own

innocents everyday. The Kurds and Shiites are massacred. If the US goes

to war Iraq will crumble with minimal losses. The people will be freed.

You seem to be someone who enjoys freedom. maybe you can understand

that.
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Kill less civilian ????
How much is enough for you ????
Would you kill you're child to save other people life ?
Why would you advocate to kill the child of an Iraqui ????
You run around thinking that sometime killing civilian is OK ???
It's never OK. You do it when NO POSSIBLE OTHER WAY IS THERE
TO PREVENT IT. It's certainly not the case here.
It's a fascist mentality to say that you're willing to kill
the child of other people even if you obiously can prevent it

You wrote:
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Oh, and I think France owes the US MUCH more than we owe it. How many

american soldiers are laid in graves in France.
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WE, French, OWE you NOTHING dear.
Who told you that ? Who put that kind of silly reasonning in you're

head ????
Did YOU die in France ? Did YOU fought in France ?
What make you so sure you're brave enought to do it ????
YOU did nothing dear. Why should I be gratefull to YOU ????
And help you kill iraqui children ???
They die to free people, YOU are nothing.
THEY would not be please to see their flag and memory
used by someone like you trying to go kill Iraqui children
YOU are nothing and did nothing.
We free you're fucking country, YOU WOULD NOT EXIST WITHOUT US.
France existed long before you.
WWII would have ended with Russian and Chinese and all
the British Colonies and Québec, and India.

You wrote:
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Now how many French ones are in the US. none.
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How many resistant got torture to death because they were blowing up

rail road in France to prevent german reinforcement ?
I lost 2 uncle in WWI they were GAS at Ypres in 1915
YOU should be gratefull to ME, I'm tbe one who has familly
member in grave in Europe!!!
And at the Yorktown Cemetery 100 French lay dead to
create you're country and much more were sailor killed
to prevent British navy from freeing cornwallis
and Napoleon Soldier were keeping British pig in Europe
Without it you would have been crush in 1812 !!!
Think about it.

Finaly you wrote:
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Oh..and Jackson didn't need the French general...The Brits ended the

war 2 days before the battle of New Orleans. Bad timing. But still a US

victory
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First YOU invaded Canada. And you would have made fool
of yourself without that victory of Jackson
Without Lafitte and his cannon, their would have been no victory

Are you done trying to remove french crucial help
to you're country freedom ???
Because It's not working.

I'm an american Patriot,
I have my american flag in my room.
Clément Gosselin is my Hero.

You're a disgrace to the American Flag to advocate
the killing of iraqui children that could be prevented.

Dealing with Iraq OK.
Full brain dead frontal assault
that will kill thousand of civilian ???
NO SIR !!! NEVER !!!
I'm not that kind of human.

I love american.
But you're not one.

Hello mister ocnus.Sorry I don't speak english.

Votre résumé de l'"histoire militaire française"(very pretentious) est apocalyptique et ridicule mais bien représentatif de la francophobie de ce forum.
Notre pays s'est construit à travers une histoire mouvementée de guerres féodales, de guerres de religions ,d'invasions successives et de guerres entre voisins.Et alors ? c'est comme cela que se sont construites les civilisations.

Aujourd'hui le peuple français est pacifique (et non pas pacifiste)parcequ'il a souffert des méfaits de la guerre sur SON TERRITOIRE.Ce qui explique en grande partie son rapprochement avec l'Allemagne.Les français sont attachés à la fondation d'un nouvel ordre international fondé sur le droit et la solidarité sous contrôle de l'ONU.

La politique de votre gouvernement vise au contraire à établir "l'ORDRE AMERICAIN SUR LE MONDE ENTIER" avec le recours exclusif à la force en se passant de l'ONU.C'est un gouvernement d'intégristes qui disent n'avoir de comptes à rendre qu'à Dieu exactement comme les islamistes de BEN LADEN au nom d'Allah !.N'est ce pas papa BUSH qui disait le 18/02/1991 "C'est une idée grandiose un nouvel ordre mondial,où diverses nations s'unissent dans un but commun..seuls les Etats-Unis possèdent la base morale et les moyens financiers pour l'instaurer."(Los Angeles times) money,money..

Cette politique risque de faire passer au second plan la lutte contre le Terrorisme au profit d'une confrontation de l'Occident avec les Arabes.Et bien les petits français que nous sommes et d'autres nous disons "NON à cette politique. NON à l'Europe américaine de messieurs BUSH and Co." Comprenez vous ça ?

Bests regards.

PS : dans votre liste mister ocnus vous avez oublié la bataille de POITIERS en 732.Formidable mister ocnus !pour changer c'etait une victoire contre les Arabes et les Sarazins! Sans cette victoire le normand d'origine "Viking" que je suis ne serait peut - être pas là pour en parler.La France serait arabe et musulmane à 100%!!

Ouais, t'facon, la tribu des Os-à-Moelle a plombé cette conne de tribu des Spike-Silex dans la grotte de Lascar en -480.522 Av. JC, donc, on s'en fout !
On est + fort.

So the french can run away easier next time.

YOU STATED: You forget the Russian and Canadian, and of course the contribution of the free french.

How many Russians fought on French soil to free France? I believe the number was - zero. If the Russians had got to France before the Ameircans and Brits, you'd be speaking Russian and the USSR would still be in business.

I don't think he forgot the contribution of the free french, but he failed to mention the contribution (to the Germans) of the Vichy French.

Yes it must have been a lovely day in June 1945 when millions of French men and women woke up and discovered that they had secretly been in the Resistance all those years and never knew it. Instead of collaborationists and cowards they had displayed their deep resistance to the Occupation by making the Germans wait for their coffee and beer al ittlelonger than they might have been happy with. Shaved heads became fashionable for the 1945 season for women; the men spent their time lying to each other about how they secretly served in the Resistance and quietly supported the Free Fench.

The worst, of course, were the communists. The PCF was the closest ally of the Germans until June 1941 when Hitler invaded the Soviet Union. French communists actively supported the Nazis. Their newspaper L'Humanite, published all the Vichy Orders for the populace to read. They betrayed the Socialists, the Liberals and took up civil posts to assist the Nazis and Vichy. They guessed wrong, as did Stalin. Then they, too, became French underground heroes.

There may be many things for which the French are proud during 1939 to 1946 but no one outside of France can imagine what they might be.